#102.5 Ranking Everything So Far (2024 Edition)
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#102.5 Ranking Everything So Far (2024 Edition)

In honor of four years of Shonen Flop David and Jordan rank everything they read this year. Tune in next week for our re-review of Guardian of the Witch! You can find our tier list here https://imgur.com/a/6R67TUO and make your own at https://tiermaker.com/create/shonen-flop-2024-17125815 (2024) and https://tiermaker.com/create/shonen-flop-lifetime-ranking-2024-17125815 (everything combined)

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[00:00:00] Jordan, can you fricking believe it, man?

[00:00:02] What?

[00:00:03] Four years of Shonen Flop.

[00:00:04] What?

[00:00:05] And it's time for us to do all.

[00:00:11] Did it do?

[00:00:12] I wonder how they didn't peak that back in the day.

[00:00:16] Jordan, we are going to be ranking everything we have read this year.

[00:00:20] Oh Jesus.

[00:00:21] That is going to be Ginka and Luna all the way to Takamagawa Gahara.

[00:00:27] And I know there's at least one series I'm pretty sure we're going to have a

[00:00:31] fight about, but that's the fun of it.

[00:00:33] And also listeners.

[00:00:34] So what we're gonna be doing is we're going to do every episode we've recorded

[00:00:36] so far, we're going to go through every series that we covered.

[00:00:39] Jordan and I are going to compare how we ranked each of them, make a mutual

[00:00:42] agreement, have a final master rank for the year, and then integrate

[00:00:45] that into our lifetime ranking.

[00:00:47] Along with that though, we're going to start with actually the main episodes.

[00:00:50] And then we'll also talk about the Patreon stuff where you can of course

[00:00:52] listen to those episodes on the Shonen Flop Patreon.

[00:00:55] That's patreon.com slash shonenflop.

[00:00:57] So Jordan, shall we get started?

[00:00:59] Let's do it.

[00:01:01] We are starting as I mentioned before with Ginka and Luna.

[00:01:04] Jordan, where did you put that series?

[00:01:06] F.

[00:01:07] Yeah, I put that in F tier.

[00:01:09] No, that series is a fucking mess.

[00:01:12] F is for flop.

[00:01:13] At least the art is good.

[00:01:15] That is true.

[00:01:15] Also listeners, I have a description that Jordan and I used.

[00:01:19] So here's how we're ranking it.

[00:01:20] So we have the typical S to FF tier.

[00:01:22] We'll get into triple F when we do our lifetime, but essentially S is legit.

[00:01:26] One of the best things ever written.

[00:01:27] A, really good, worth reading even if you're not a fan of flop manga.

[00:01:30] B, solid series.

[00:01:32] It's probably the best of a series that you would say is like a

[00:01:34] that like you would read if you're into flop manga.

[00:01:36] And then that's kind of the flop barrier.

[00:01:38] So you're not a flop if you're between S and B.

[00:01:40] If you're a C tier, you're OK.

[00:01:42] You're at the border of not being a flop.

[00:01:44] And D, it definitely tries but had some issues.

[00:01:47] And then under that as a certified flop barrier where we have F,

[00:01:50] which is pretty bad or you may not regret reading it ironically in FF,

[00:01:53] you will regret reading it even ironically.

[00:01:55] Yeah.

[00:01:56] So that's a heads up.

[00:01:57] So, yeah, so Ginkgo Luna, very bad.

[00:01:59] But there's a little bit of value reading it still.

[00:02:02] And I will say, listener, I forget how I ranked these on the episode.

[00:02:07] Yeah.

[00:02:07] So you may be listening and be like, huh, that didn't sound like how Jordan's

[00:02:11] described it in his episode.

[00:02:14] Like maybe I said something was a certified flop and it turns out

[00:02:17] it's like a flop here or I said it was a flop and it's not a flop here.

[00:02:21] I don't remember.

[00:02:22] I don't remember.

[00:02:24] Neither do I.

[00:02:24] So that's going to be the fun of it.

[00:02:26] I thought Jordan for a second.

[00:02:27] I don't remember how I ranked them in this list.

[00:02:29] And I was like, Jordan, you just made the list.

[00:02:31] I'm looking at it right now.

[00:02:32] That would be very strange.

[00:02:34] I would genuinely be concerned.

[00:02:37] I may have forgotten how I ranked it, but I'm looking at it right now.

[00:02:41] So I at least can look at my list.

[00:02:44] Next up, we have Butsu Zone.

[00:02:46] How did you rank this one, Jordan?

[00:02:47] F.

[00:02:48] I actually had it in D tier.

[00:02:50] I would say it's at least better than Ginkgo Luna.

[00:02:52] It's better than Ginkgo Luna.

[00:02:54] It's between D and F.

[00:02:56] I went back and forth.

[00:02:57] I mean, like it's just not great.

[00:03:00] It's not good.

[00:03:01] It's a bad series.

[00:03:02] I don't know what to tell you.

[00:03:03] Yeah, I definitely feel like it's not.

[00:03:06] It's not something I fully just regret reading.

[00:03:09] It's not.

[00:03:09] It didn't hurt me.

[00:03:11] Yeah, but it's just it's not good.

[00:03:13] Yeah.

[00:03:14] Like a lot of the series from like C to D are things where it's like,

[00:03:19] you know, it's not great, but like could have been good.

[00:03:22] You know?

[00:03:23] Yeah. C and D are like they at least tried.

[00:03:25] Butsu Zone, I don't see a world in which it's good.

[00:03:28] Yeah, basically.

[00:03:29] It's the Shaman King.

[00:03:30] Yeah, exactly.

[00:03:31] The world in which is good is just Shaman King.

[00:03:34] Yeah.

[00:03:35] All right.

[00:03:35] Next up, I think we have our first challenger of a series

[00:03:38] that's definitely not F tier, Takeke Ryusei.

[00:03:40] I have it in D.

[00:03:42] I have it in C.

[00:03:43] I thought it was on the upper end of like a flop series.

[00:03:46] Yeah, it had amazing art.

[00:03:48] It was actually very it was not a flop for the first like eight chapters.

[00:03:51] And it's not like it became the worst thing we've ever read after that point.

[00:03:55] I just feel like the majority of that series is bad.

[00:03:58] Yeah, I would accept to see some of these are like on the cusp.

[00:04:02] Yeah. Of C and D.

[00:04:04] Like, you know what?

[00:04:05] Because those first few chapters are they're really good in that art.

[00:04:09] It's legitimately one of the best drawn things.

[00:04:12] The art is fantastic.

[00:04:14] So I'll give you a C.

[00:04:16] All right.

[00:04:17] Next we have what usually comes to mind when we think about something

[00:04:20] bad we read this year.

[00:04:21] Ichinose is under control.

[00:04:23] Is that F or FF?

[00:04:24] I have it in D.

[00:04:25] What?

[00:04:26] It wound up not being as bad as I thought it would be.

[00:04:29] I literally made a list of times this gag manga made me laugh

[00:04:32] and it was like 10 times.

[00:04:33] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:04:35] All right.

[00:04:35] I will put it we'll put it in F, Drew then.

[00:04:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:38] I again, I forgot a lot about this.

[00:04:41] Yeah. So I'll say it's better than Butsuzon and Ginka and Luna.

[00:04:45] All right. Yeah.

[00:04:46] Next up, we have Harrisburg in Mirror World.

[00:04:49] Oof. This wow.

[00:04:50] That last chapter of it.

[00:04:51] Where do you have this one, Jordan?

[00:04:53] FF. Yeah.

[00:04:55] Yeah, I'm fine with that.

[00:04:56] Yeah. FF.

[00:04:57] I don't like that series.

[00:04:58] That's bad.

[00:04:59] All right.

[00:05:00] Next we have Amalgam Distortion, which as I've talked about,

[00:05:02] has perhaps one of the greatest author glow ups everyone should read.

[00:05:06] Yeah.

[00:05:06] Dragon and Phoenix or Chameleon.

[00:05:08] Dragon Phoenix is the Chinese restaurant I order at.

[00:05:10] Oh, it's very good.

[00:05:12] All right. So Jordan, where did you put Amalgam of Distortion?

[00:05:14] I personally had it in D tier.

[00:05:15] I did too. All right, let's do it.

[00:05:17] I mean, you know, it's flopped.

[00:05:19] Not great. Not good.

[00:05:20] But like, it's not awful.

[00:05:22] Again, the art is fantastic.

[00:05:24] Yeah, the guy definitely levels up his art even more than that, which is crazy.

[00:05:27] Yeah. All right.

[00:05:28] Speaking of weird art, we have a Nano Hazard.

[00:05:30] This is our first series.

[00:05:31] I know for a fact we didn't call a flop this year.

[00:05:34] So yeah, I feel it's on the weaker end.

[00:05:36] So I probably give it a B.

[00:05:37] I gave it an A. You gave it an A?

[00:05:39] I really like it.

[00:05:40] Is it just because you fucking love how everyone died at the end?

[00:05:43] I thought it was extremely compelling.

[00:05:45] Like so much shit happens in that.

[00:05:48] David, I know how much shit happens in that

[00:05:50] because I wrote the fucking plot summary.

[00:05:52] I was really impressed with how many things actually mattered in that series.

[00:05:58] As we told Shen, it never wastes your time, which is actually very impressive.

[00:06:01] Never waste your time.

[00:06:03] It's interesting.

[00:06:04] Like I genuinely haven't read something like it.

[00:06:07] And yeah, the ending is ballsy as fuck.

[00:06:09] Yeah. Like it's kind of awesome.

[00:06:12] Like the fact that it's like it makes you like kind of question

[00:06:15] whether it's good or not.

[00:06:16] So you would tell anyone, even if they weren't like a flop manga person,

[00:06:19] they should read Nano Hazard.

[00:06:21] I think it's an experience.

[00:06:23] How about we'll put in A for now and see if anything knocks it down to B tier?

[00:06:26] The ones I have in A are kind of like their experiences.

[00:06:30] I feel like you should read them like.

[00:06:33] OK, all right.

[00:06:35] Next up, we have S-R, speaking of shitty plot summaries.

[00:06:38] FF, fuck stars.

[00:06:40] I fucking hate stars.

[00:06:42] It wasted my time.

[00:06:44] But the art is so nice.

[00:06:45] I don't care.

[00:06:47] David, the vast majority of those panels are taken up by text boxes.

[00:06:51] That's true.

[00:06:52] Even if the art is good, half of it's covered up.

[00:06:54] Better or worse than Harrisburg?

[00:06:56] I don't know.

[00:06:57] It's like it's there.

[00:06:59] Like, fuck, I'm angrier at stars than maybe any other series on here.

[00:07:04] What a waste of good art.

[00:07:05] What a waste of good art.

[00:07:07] Just a complete waste of everything.

[00:07:09] I would put it below Harrisburg just because I'm not angry

[00:07:13] at Harrisburg in the way that I am of stars.

[00:07:16] All right.

[00:07:16] Next, we have one of I think the series we said was our favorite of last year.

[00:07:20] So we definitely know where it might be going.

[00:07:23] So where would you put Fabricant 100?

[00:07:25] I put it in B.

[00:07:26] You put you like Nano Hazard more than Fabricant?

[00:07:29] I did.

[00:07:30] I think Fabricant 100's ending is better than Nano Hazard's.

[00:07:32] Fabricant 100's ending is really, really good.

[00:07:36] But overall, there are too many flaws in Fabricant for me to really put it in A

[00:07:41] and it's not original enough of a premise for it to like topple Nano Hazard,

[00:07:46] which is just such an interesting read.

[00:07:49] Yeah, you're right.

[00:07:50] It's not a flop primarily because I have good that ending.

[00:07:53] Exactly.

[00:07:53] The ending was fantastic.

[00:07:55] Yeah, that's fine.

[00:07:56] All right. Next up, we have Rookie Policewoman.

[00:07:59] Jordan, I put her in F tier.

[00:08:01] I did as well.

[00:08:03] I would say this is it's probably better, though, than Isunoki's Under Control.

[00:08:08] Uh, I think it's worse, but it's better than Butsu-Zone.

[00:08:11] Oh, I don't know.

[00:08:13] It's definitely better than Gink and Luna.

[00:08:15] Yes, better than Gink and Luna.

[00:08:16] Shit. I don't know.

[00:08:17] Like, ah, I'm willing to put it above Butsu-Zone,

[00:08:21] but they're like right around the same level of quality.

[00:08:24] Yeah, fair enough.

[00:08:25] All right. Next up, we have Cyborg Grandpa G.

[00:08:27] I put this in D tier.

[00:08:29] I think it's just not as bad as the F tiers, even though it has a lot of issues.

[00:08:32] And that art is so good.

[00:08:34] I put it in C?

[00:08:35] C? So you think it's better than Amalgam?

[00:08:38] Yeah, like I think it's like an interesting manga.

[00:08:41] Some of the jokes land.

[00:08:43] And then it goes for 10 more pages.

[00:08:45] And then it goes for 10 more pages.

[00:08:46] I mean, it's a flopped manga.

[00:08:48] It's not good, David.

[00:08:49] Yeah. You know what, though?

[00:08:50] I'm looking at the ones that I have in C besides that,

[00:08:53] and they're all better than it.

[00:08:55] Yeah. So yeah, I'm willing to put that down in D.

[00:08:58] All right. So we'll put it above Amalgam.

[00:08:59] Next up, the good art trend keeps going.

[00:09:01] We have Tamaku Cinema.

[00:09:03] I put this at the bottom of C tier.

[00:09:05] I think it had some fun ideas.

[00:09:07] It's not offensive.

[00:09:08] The art is very good.

[00:09:09] I think honestly, a lot of the issues we had was more

[00:09:11] it didn't use its potential very well, which is, yes, definitely criticism of it.

[00:09:16] But it also means as the overall package, you can't really penalize it for it.

[00:09:19] I have it in D.

[00:09:20] Do you like it more than Cyber Grandpa G?

[00:09:22] No, I like Cyber Grandpa G more than that.

[00:09:24] OK. I feel like Tamaku Cinema, there are so many problems with it.

[00:09:28] There are interesting aspects to it, but like, I don't know.

[00:09:32] I don't really think it gets there.

[00:09:34] All right, because again, the series I have in C, I like significantly more than it.

[00:09:39] Fair enough. All right.

[00:09:40] Next up, we have Do Retry.

[00:09:42] I had this at the bottom of F tier.

[00:09:44] I think it's just barely too good not to be considered absolute dog shit.

[00:09:48] That's F. Do Retry is F.

[00:09:50] It's not complete dog shit.

[00:09:52] It's not a miserable read.

[00:09:55] It's just a bad series. Yeah.

[00:09:57] It's not Bone Collection, the author's other work.

[00:09:59] Like we talked about how like the author had a small glow up.

[00:10:03] Yeah, this was not his spy family.

[00:10:06] It's like when Krillin gets his inner power unlocked by Guru

[00:10:11] and he gets like a little bit stronger, which is

[00:10:14] referencing the Team Four Star version of that conference.

[00:10:16] Yeah, yeah. Which is effectively the canon version.

[00:10:19] But anyway, so Jordan, is this better or worse than Ginkgo and Luna?

[00:10:22] Man, I don't know, because on one hand, the story is a lot more coherent.

[00:10:27] On the other hand, Ginkgo and Luna's art is so much better than this.

[00:10:31] I'm fine putting it under Ginkgo and Luna.

[00:10:32] I think you put it under Ginkgo and Luna.

[00:10:35] It's it's close, though.

[00:10:36] Don't read either one.

[00:10:38] Fair. Next we have Icehead Gill, perhaps the most inoffensive series we read.

[00:10:42] I still put it in F tier, but it's kind of like a middle of the pack

[00:10:45] where it's a very strong contender for series

[00:10:46] we'll most likely have forgotten we read.

[00:10:49] Absolutely. It's F tier.

[00:10:50] I mean, because it's very bad.

[00:10:52] But yes, it's like inoffensive as hell.

[00:10:54] I'm going to put it before Ginkgo and Luna.

[00:10:56] Yeah, I think it's a little better than I think it's better than Ginkgo and Luna.

[00:11:00] All right. Next up, we have Smokey BB, which is biggest contribution

[00:11:03] was perhaps the greatest cover we've ever had.

[00:11:05] Yeah, I also put this in F tier.

[00:11:07] I can't even remember anything good or bad about this series, though.

[00:11:10] I have it in D tier.

[00:11:12] Yeah, that's because I remember liking the main character,

[00:11:16] but it was really stupid.

[00:11:18] Yeah, the whole series is very dumb and bad.

[00:11:21] I'm going to put it after Amalgam, though.

[00:11:22] It's definitely not as good as Amalgam.

[00:11:24] No, Amalgam is a lot better than Smokey BB.

[00:11:26] I'd be fine with it in F, but I think it's D.

[00:11:29] Yeah, that's not bad.

[00:11:30] Like I'm comparing it to the series we have in F and it is better than all of them.

[00:11:34] That's totally fine.

[00:11:35] Which is, you know, again, not saying much at all.

[00:11:39] Yeah. Next up, we have Yoko Mono.

[00:11:42] This series is another series that honestly, if you asked me to recap it,

[00:11:47] I couldn't tell you because I completely forgot what happened in this series

[00:11:49] because it was not very interesting.

[00:11:51] I put it in F partly because I felt the exact same way

[00:11:55] where it was like, what the fuck happened in there?

[00:11:57] The main thing that I remember is that it introduced a billion characters

[00:12:01] in the last couple of chapters and then asked me to feel sad about them.

[00:12:05] Like, I feel this is either before or after Icehead Gill,

[00:12:08] which is in the failure because we don't remember anything about it.

[00:12:11] So I think it's better than Icehead Gill.

[00:12:14] OK, that's fine.

[00:12:14] All right. Next, we have Fool Drive, where we had to check out

[00:12:17] how old his German grandpa was.

[00:12:19] I had this kind of in D tier.

[00:12:20] I think it had some fun moments, but it's there wasn't anything like that.

[00:12:23] Made me say, oh, this is fucking terrible, you know?

[00:12:25] I agree. It's in D tier.

[00:12:27] It's inoffensive. It has some cool moments like better or worse than Smokey.

[00:12:32] I think it's better than Smokey Bibi because like we talked about it,

[00:12:35] the guy who wrote Smokey Bibi, like it doesn't really feel

[00:12:38] like he cares about baseball, whereas the guy who wrote Fool Drive

[00:12:42] absolutely cares about table tennis.

[00:12:44] Yeah. All right, Jordan, I feel this one we may have arguments about.

[00:12:47] Where did you put Saint Muscle?

[00:12:49] The most manga of all time.

[00:12:50] A. I put this.

[00:12:52] It is not a good manga Jordan.

[00:12:54] It rules. It is interesting.

[00:12:57] It fucking owns.

[00:12:58] I don't care how it objectively works.

[00:13:01] I am glad that I read it.

[00:13:03] I love I love that series.

[00:13:06] I'm not putting Saint Muscle in A.

[00:13:08] It is a bad series and you just have a special spot in your heart for it.

[00:13:12] I think it kicks ass.

[00:13:14] Saint Muscle owns.

[00:13:16] David, you were like there's going to be a certain amount of times

[00:13:19] I'm going to say fuck yeah.

[00:13:21] And we said fuck yeah all those times.

[00:13:23] All right, fine.

[00:13:24] Also, David, it has a guy named Giant King who is giant and a king

[00:13:30] and his title is Giant King.

[00:13:33] Fine, fine.

[00:13:34] How about I will put in B tier, but I'm not putting in A tier

[00:13:36] because there are a lot of asterisks for the kind of person

[00:13:39] that would read Saint Muscle.

[00:13:41] Yeah, the asterisks are is a cool person who

[00:13:45] this is the first one where we had like a three tier

[00:13:47] rank difference between our opinions.

[00:13:49] All right.

[00:13:50] Next, we have Chang Cha.

[00:13:51] I think this is a pretty slam dunk FF.

[00:13:53] FF is fucking garbage.

[00:13:55] We're in FF.

[00:13:56] It's the worst one.

[00:13:57] Let's be real.

[00:13:58] It's the worst one.

[00:13:59] Like, yeah, it doesn't even have good art.

[00:14:02] No series made me angrier than Stars, but Chogach is worse than Stars.

[00:14:08] Yeah. All right.

[00:14:09] So, Jordan, this is what I was fearing.

[00:14:10] We have Service Wars, which I put in A tier.

[00:14:13] I read this in real time because I didn't think it was going to be a failure.

[00:14:16] I assume you have it probably in C or D tier.

[00:14:18] Is that right?

[00:14:19] I have it in C, but I'm not happy about it.

[00:14:22] It's just it's sad because those first few chapters are A tier.

[00:14:27] So good. All right.

[00:14:28] They are A tier.

[00:14:30] It's just that it shits the bed.

[00:14:33] I really think an editor ruined this series, but as it stands, it is C for me.

[00:14:38] I wish I could say A.

[00:14:40] I really do, but I can't.

[00:14:42] Here's what I think then based on conversation

[00:14:43] I'm going to say B tier above Fabrikant 100.

[00:14:45] Mm. OK. All right.

[00:14:47] I'm fine with that.

[00:14:48] So reverse Fabrikant, the best part was the first few chapters.

[00:14:51] Yeah. Next we have Killing Me.

[00:14:54] I had this, I think in D tier.

[00:14:55] I think it was so inoffensive.

[00:14:57] Yeah, it wasn't great, but it was also really short.

[00:14:59] So it wasn't even like it was a torture to read it.

[00:15:01] I also had it in D tier.

[00:15:03] All right. Do you want bottom in D tier?

[00:15:05] Or is there anything you would say in D tier it's better than?

[00:15:08] I think it's better than BB.

[00:15:09] OK, that's fine.

[00:15:10] Marshall Master, Asumi with Marshall Mathers.

[00:15:14] Yes. MMA.

[00:15:15] So this was not a flop.

[00:15:17] So this is like the most B tier series we've read.

[00:15:22] Is this better or worse than Fabrikant?

[00:15:24] Oh, man, I think it's a little better.

[00:15:27] I think it's more consistent.

[00:15:29] The ending, Fabrikant's ending is absolutely better than it.

[00:15:32] Of course. Yeah.

[00:15:33] But I feel like it is much more of a consistent manga.

[00:15:37] That woman's fight was really good.

[00:15:40] Honestly, what stopped it from being a flop, I think, was how good

[00:15:42] that last fight was to come out, Kahara, which we so badly wanted not to be a flop.

[00:15:47] So it sounds like an R-C tier contender to me.

[00:15:48] What do you think?

[00:15:49] That's C for me. That's C.

[00:15:51] All right. I'm going to say it's worse than Takeki.

[00:15:53] Yes. It's such a shame.

[00:15:55] God, if you hadn't gone to the fucking school.

[00:15:56] All right. Yeah.

[00:15:57] So that is all of our main content.

[00:15:59] Now let's get into our patron content.

[00:16:01] First of all, we have Diesel, aka the unapologetic rip off of part three of Jojo.

[00:16:07] I had this in F tier.

[00:16:08] Oh, this is F tier for me.

[00:16:10] This is the most going by our definition is the most F tier series

[00:16:15] because it is terrible.

[00:16:16] You're right.

[00:16:17] But I don't regret reading it.

[00:16:19] Ironically, it's only one chapter and it is so stupid.

[00:16:24] It's hilarious.

[00:16:24] I mean, the bad guy's name is Bofa.

[00:16:27] OK, so Jordan, where would you put this in F tier?

[00:16:29] Oh, man.

[00:16:31] It's tough to say because part of me wants to put it at the top

[00:16:34] because it is the least painful, because it's only one chapter.

[00:16:40] And what a chapter.

[00:16:41] Is that a good thing?

[00:16:43] I don't know.

[00:16:44] I would say why we put it ahead of Ginka and Luna.

[00:16:48] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:16:49] Next up, we have Sand Land.

[00:16:51] I would say this is a slam dunk S tier.

[00:16:53] My S tier is called Sand Land tier because it's not even fair to compare.

[00:16:57] Yeah. It's Toriyama knocking it out of the park.

[00:17:00] Like, are you kidding me?

[00:17:01] This is not fair to compare to any of these.

[00:17:05] We had Chainsaw Man on this list before.

[00:17:07] It happens sometimes. Yeah.

[00:17:08] All right. Next up, we have the right way to make Shonen Jump.

[00:17:11] It really picked up after I don't understand why they talked about

[00:17:13] the printing process for the first like 10 chapters.

[00:17:15] It got really interesting and then just suddenly ended.

[00:17:18] I would say it's kind of like a C tier series.

[00:17:20] I have it in C too.

[00:17:21] I would say it's probably better than Takama Gahara,

[00:17:26] especially because how quick it is.

[00:17:27] I don't know.

[00:17:28] I mean, here's the main thing I remember about the right way to make Jump

[00:17:31] is when we got a confirmation that Shonen Jump is sexist

[00:17:34] and isn't aware that that's a bad thing.

[00:17:36] That's the main thing I remember from the right way to make Jump.

[00:17:40] They also did finally confirm how the table of contents works.

[00:17:43] Yeah. Which actually was a pretty big deal.

[00:17:45] Yeah. So you want to bottomless C tier?

[00:17:47] Yeah. OK, that's fine.

[00:17:49] All right. Next up, we actually speaking of masters, we have Monster.

[00:17:53] I did not remember this series at all.

[00:17:55] I did not know how to rank it.

[00:17:57] Did we cover this series?

[00:17:59] It's the one shot by Oda that features whatchamacallit that shows up in Wano.

[00:18:03] Right!

[00:18:05] Yeah. So that's not a good sign that you read something from Oda

[00:18:08] that you don't remember.

[00:18:09] I completely forgot that that existed.

[00:18:12] I guess that means it's C tier.

[00:18:15] Now that I'm thinking about it, it was not it was pretty good.

[00:18:18] I would put it at the top of C tier. That's where I had it.

[00:18:21] The fact that I don't remember it at all is a bad sign.

[00:18:25] I like I saw that and I was like, did David make a mistake

[00:18:28] by putting that there?

[00:18:29] Like, I guess David messed up and put in just a series we didn't look at.

[00:18:34] But no, I just forgot it.

[00:18:37] All right. I'm going to put it at the top of C tier.

[00:18:38] Yeah. And then finally, speaking of forgetting, Jordan, we have...

[00:18:42] Oh, God.

[00:18:42] Why don't you tell everyone the name of this series?

[00:18:45] Oh, the Ichinose family's deadly secret.

[00:18:49] Sins.

[00:18:50] Damn it!

[00:18:51] So you were so close.

[00:18:52] I was so close.

[00:18:54] God, this really pissed me off.

[00:18:55] I would honestly say that the first two volumes we read with Rem

[00:18:58] would have probably been in like B tier and then it just shit itself so bad.

[00:19:02] I have it in D.

[00:19:03] Oh, I do too actually.

[00:19:05] Quality of those first few chapters.

[00:19:07] OK. Basically, it goes B, F, C.

[00:19:11] Yeah. OK.

[00:19:12] So it evens out to like a D.

[00:19:14] It gets a bit better towards the end.

[00:19:15] Like, but man, those F chapters.

[00:19:19] God, what a waste of our time.

[00:19:20] Real hard to get through.

[00:19:21] And the C is not is like the bottom of C.

[00:19:25] But those first few chapters, again, strong.

[00:19:28] Is it better or worse than Amalgam?

[00:19:29] Better than Amalgam because again, it has stronger.

[00:19:33] Better or worse than Cyborg Grandpa?

[00:19:35] I think it's better than Cyborg Grandpa.

[00:19:36] So that's at the top of D. We did it.

[00:19:39] Yeah. OK.

[00:19:40] All right.

[00:19:40] Then, Jordan, we have our official ranking with S tier.

[00:19:43] We have Sandland.

[00:19:44] Not even fair.

[00:19:45] Not even fair.

[00:19:46] Honestly, shouldn't even be honest.

[00:19:48] Like it's not fair.

[00:19:49] A, we have Nano Hazard.

[00:19:51] B, we have Saint Muscle, Service War, MMA,

[00:19:54] Fabricate 100.

[00:19:55] C, we have Monsters, Takeke Ryusei, Takamagahara,

[00:19:58] Right Way to Make Jump.

[00:19:59] D, Family Sins, Grandpa G, Tamaku Cinema,

[00:20:02] Amalgam of Distortion, Full Drive, Killing Me, Smokey BB.

[00:20:05] F tier, we have Under Control, Rookie Policewoman,

[00:20:08] Butsu Zone, Takamada, that one.

[00:20:10] Yo, I came on, though.

[00:20:11] Yeah, I said Gil, Diesel, Genki and Luna, and D, Retry.

[00:20:15] And finally, in FF tier, we have Harrisburg

[00:20:17] and Mirror World, Stars, and Changcha.

[00:20:19] Changcha.

[00:20:20] Jordan, I could not give a fucking shit about saying

[00:20:23] that in a really bad series, right?

[00:20:25] Also, listener, if you see my tier

[00:20:27] and are confused by the order,

[00:20:29] I only cared about the order of the tiers.

[00:20:31] The individual tiers are not ordered.

[00:20:33] All right, so Jordan, now we go to part two of this

[00:20:35] where we are going to make a lifetime list

[00:20:38] where we are taking this.

[00:20:39] All right, so let's dive into it.

[00:20:41] And of course, listeners,

[00:20:42] we will be including in the show notes

[00:20:44] a link to Imgur where you can see all these.

[00:20:46] So Jordan, let's get to it.

[00:20:49] So first of all, I'm just gonna do it

[00:20:51] in the order that they are presented.

[00:20:52] All right, so let's get started with Killing Me.

[00:20:53] So we have Killing Me in D tier.

[00:20:56] Where do you think it should go?

[00:20:58] I feel like it should go like right around our Blood Oath

[00:21:01] just because, you know, it's thematic.

[00:21:04] Yeah, that's fine.

[00:21:05] I'm not sure if it's better.

[00:21:06] I really am not sure if it's better or worse than Blood Oath.

[00:21:08] I think it's a little worse than Blood Oath.

[00:21:10] And you think it's better than Doran?

[00:21:12] Ooh, now that you point that out.

[00:21:14] I think it's worse than that,

[00:21:15] but I think it's better than Tokyo Demon Bride.

[00:21:18] Because I think it's better than,

[00:21:20] or I think it's worse than Kako and the False Detective.

[00:21:22] Okay, you think it's worse?

[00:21:24] Okay, so we'll put it there.

[00:21:25] Yeah, I do think it's better than Love Rush, so yes.

[00:21:28] Fair enough.

[00:21:29] That is a good place to put it.

[00:21:30] Next up, we have MMA.

[00:21:31] Jordan, so we have that right now in B tier.

[00:21:34] So is there a series you would say,

[00:21:35] wow, MMA is definitely better or worse than that?

[00:21:38] I would say I think it's better than Candy Flurry.

[00:21:41] I was just gonna say that.

[00:21:42] I think it's better than Candy Flurry.

[00:21:43] Nice.

[00:21:44] Next up, we have Takamakahara.

[00:21:45] We had that in C tier.

[00:21:47] I would say I definitely think it's better than Red Sprite.

[00:21:51] Yes, I think it's better than Red Sprite.

[00:21:53] Better or worse than Ayashiman though?

[00:21:56] What's that one to the left of Ayashiman?

[00:21:58] I can't-

[00:21:59] Cool Shock BT.

[00:21:59] Cool Shock BT, yeah.

[00:22:00] It's definitely not as good as Cool Shock BT.

[00:22:03] I feel like it's not as good as Ayashiman

[00:22:05] because Ayashiman was just kind of like,

[00:22:06] okay, it's whole run.

[00:22:08] Yeah, that's all right.

[00:22:09] I'm down with that.

[00:22:10] All right, next up we have Ginka and Luna,

[00:22:11] the first one joining the F tier.

[00:22:13] I would say it's better than-

[00:22:16] Dude, this is hard.

[00:22:18] It's definitely better than Hi-Fi Cluster.

[00:22:21] I was gonna say, I think it's better than Hi-Fi Cluster.

[00:22:23] This is basically solely due to the art.

[00:22:27] We can put that there.

[00:22:28] Yeah, all right.

[00:22:29] Next we have Butsuzone, another F tier.

[00:22:31] We said that this was better than Ginka and Luna,

[00:22:34] but is it better than Ill Boy, Ill Girl?

[00:22:37] Yeah.

[00:22:38] I would say it's better than Champagne.

[00:22:40] I would agree with that.

[00:22:41] Is it as good as Super Smartphone?

[00:22:46] Yes, but not as good as Earthchild.

[00:22:49] Just because of that first chapter though.

[00:22:52] Earthchild, the best one shot.

[00:22:53] All right, next up we have Takeki Ryusei in C tier.

[00:22:56] Is there a series that you would say

[00:22:57] that's definitely better?

[00:22:59] I would say Takeki Ryusei

[00:23:00] is probably better than Hell Warden.

[00:23:02] Yeah, I would say so.

[00:23:05] I would say it's better than Teenage Renaissance David,

[00:23:08] honestly.

[00:23:09] All right, fair enough.

[00:23:10] Yeah.

[00:23:11] Next up we have, at the top of F tier,

[00:23:13] we have Under Control.

[00:23:14] So, hmm.

[00:23:15] Ooh, this is tough.

[00:23:16] This is like really hard.

[00:23:18] I think it's definitely better than Guardian of the Witch.

[00:23:21] Yeah, I was gonna say.

[00:23:22] I wanna say better than Tista

[00:23:24] because Tista didn't even make sense.

[00:23:25] I kind of feel that way too.

[00:23:27] The thing about Ichigaki is that

[00:23:29] it's actually pretty coherent.

[00:23:31] It's just not that funny.

[00:23:32] Yeah.

[00:23:33] But it does have moments where it is.

[00:23:35] There's just not that many.

[00:23:36] Yeah.

[00:23:37] I almost feel like it's better than Neru.

[00:23:39] I'm not sure though.

[00:23:40] Yeah, that's fine.

[00:23:41] Yeah.

[00:23:42] But not as good as U19.

[00:23:43] Yeah, I kind of feel that way.

[00:23:45] All right, next up we have Harrisburg, our first FF.

[00:23:47] Hmm, this is hard.

[00:23:49] I feel it's actually stronger than most of these FF tiers.

[00:23:52] It is.

[00:23:53] I would say, I'm just gonna put at the top to be honest.

[00:23:55] I think it's better than Gunblades West.

[00:23:57] I kind of agree.

[00:23:58] Yeah, it's like there are aspects of Harrisugawa

[00:24:01] that are like not that bad, honestly.

[00:24:04] Yeah.

[00:24:04] It's just overall, it's not a good read.

[00:24:08] The issue is there's just no reason to read it, kind of.

[00:24:10] It's just like.

[00:24:11] I agree.

[00:24:12] So next up we have Amalgam of Distortion.

[00:24:14] Jordan, we had this in D tier.

[00:24:16] We have already ranked Killing Me,

[00:24:18] so it's definitely above that.

[00:24:19] I would say it's better than Arbludo.

[00:24:22] I think it's better than Aliens Area.

[00:24:24] You know what, actually, yeah, I can respect that.

[00:24:26] But not as good as Dark Mage?

[00:24:27] Yeah.

[00:24:28] Okay, fair enough.

[00:24:29] All right, next up we have Nano Hazard, our first A tier.

[00:24:31] I would put this,

[00:24:34] I would say it's probably the worst in A tier.

[00:24:35] I would put it at the bottom of A tier, yeah.

[00:24:37] I mean, Magu, I just think that's such a great ending

[00:24:39] that series had.

[00:24:40] Yeah.

[00:24:41] Next we have Stars.

[00:24:43] Stars, I feel it's worse than Gunblaze West,

[00:24:46] but better than everything else.

[00:24:48] I agree with that,

[00:24:49] just because the other things are so fucking bad.

[00:24:53] Yeah, Fabricant 100.

[00:24:55] So we have this at the bottom of B tier.

[00:24:57] I would say it's,

[00:24:59] I think it's better than Candy Flurry.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

[00:25:04] Okay, so then it just goes there

[00:25:05] because we said it's worse than MMA.

[00:25:06] Yeah.

[00:25:07] All right, next we have Rookie Policewoman.

[00:25:08] So it's gonna go between Under Control and Bootsy Zone.

[00:25:12] I think it is right to the left of Tista.

[00:25:17] Of Tista?

[00:25:17] You know what, I can respect that.

[00:25:18] Yeah.

[00:25:19] All right, next is Cyborg Grandpa G.

[00:25:21] We have that in D tier.

[00:25:23] I think it is,

[00:25:28] I would put it above Tokyo Demon Bride.

[00:25:31] Yeah, I'm down with that.

[00:25:32] You're down with the sickness.

[00:25:34] Ooh, ah, ah, ah.

[00:25:35] Next we have Tamako Cinema.

[00:25:36] So is this better or worse than Dark Mage?

[00:25:39] I think it's a little worse than Dark Mage.

[00:25:41] Next we have Do Retry, Jordan.

[00:25:43] So this is the bottom of F tier.

[00:25:46] I know for a fact it is,

[00:25:48] ah, I would say it's better than Hi-Drive,

[00:25:50] Hi-Fi Cluster.

[00:25:51] Yeah, I think it's worse than Naru though.

[00:25:54] Yeah, Ginka and Luna is next to it,

[00:25:55] so it wouldn't be able to go past that point.

[00:25:57] Yeah, all right.

[00:25:58] All right, next we have Iced Gil.

[00:26:00] So this is definitely at least better than Ginka and Luna.

[00:26:03] I want to say, I wanna put it behind Champagne.

[00:26:06] I think it's better than Champagne,

[00:26:08] but not as good as Super Smartphone.

[00:26:10] I think Super Smartphone's better, like right there.

[00:26:13] Then that's totally fine.

[00:26:14] So we can actually do-

[00:26:15] Fuck Champagne.

[00:26:16] Yoko Mono can also be slotted

[00:26:18] because there's not room otherwise,

[00:26:19] unless you think Yoko Mono is better than Super Smartphone.

[00:26:21] Ooh, I would rather read Super Smartphone.

[00:26:26] Okay, that's fine.

[00:26:28] All right, next up we have Smokey BB.

[00:26:29] Is it better or worse than Golem Hearts?

[00:26:33] I think it's better than Golem Hearts.

[00:26:35] Is it better or worse than Love Rush?

[00:26:37] No.

[00:26:38] Okay, so is it better or worse than that fucking thing

[00:26:41] where they had to hold hands the whole time?

[00:26:42] No.

[00:26:43] Okay, then we've got it.

[00:26:45] Fucking thing where they had-

[00:26:46] Next up we have Full Drive.

[00:26:48] Yeah, no, that's true.

[00:26:49] I don't remember the name of that series either,

[00:26:51] so that's fair.

[00:26:52] Fair.

[00:26:54] So next we have Full Drive.

[00:26:56] Full Drive, Double Arts was the name of it.

[00:26:58] Double Arts!

[00:27:00] Where would you put that?

[00:27:01] So it's gotta go ahead of Killing Me,

[00:27:02] but it's gotta go after Amalgam of Distortion.

[00:27:06] Full Drive, Full Drive.

[00:27:08] I think it is right after Aliens Area

[00:27:13] and before Night Dragon Ball Parade.

[00:27:16] So it's the best sports we've read.

[00:27:17] Yeah.

[00:27:18] All right, Jordan, let's put your favorite series.

[00:27:20] Where are you putting Saint Muscle?

[00:27:22] What B-tier series are you saying is worse?

[00:27:25] That's SS, but no, I mean,

[00:27:28] no, B-tier.

[00:27:31] You place this one, man.

[00:27:32] I think it's worse than Mashal.

[00:27:34] It's definitely worse than Mashal.

[00:27:35] Is it better or worse than Black Torch?

[00:27:39] I think it's right to the left of Ba'al.

[00:27:41] Well, we said it was better, Jordan,

[00:27:43] than Fabricant 100.

[00:27:46] Okay, let's see.

[00:27:48] So you gotta put it between Fabricant 100 and Mashal.

[00:27:51] What's to the left of Fabricant?

[00:27:53] Oh, that's MMA, sorry.

[00:27:54] It's gotta be between MMA and Mashal.

[00:27:57] I think it's right in between MMA and Duranki.

[00:28:00] Fair enough.

[00:28:01] So then that means actually that we can now auto-place

[00:28:03] nice Service Wars in between.

[00:28:06] So we just move that block.

[00:28:08] Yeah.

[00:28:08] That entire block just got inserted, I love it.

[00:28:10] Yeah, between Duranki and Candy Flurry.

[00:28:13] Yeah, so that was the 2000,

[00:28:15] we did that last year, remember?

[00:28:16] We put the first and the last thing next to each other

[00:28:18] and we just inserted that entire tier

[00:28:20] and it let us skip like seven series to discuss.

[00:28:23] All right, next up we have Ching Cha.

[00:28:24] This is our first FFT, or no, sorry, I've lied.

[00:28:27] This is the last of our FFT-er.

[00:28:28] This is worse than both of them.

[00:28:30] This is bad.

[00:28:32] How bad is it?

[00:28:34] This is bad.

[00:28:35] I think it is better than Zan,

[00:28:38] which is not a great place to be,

[00:28:39] but I think it might actually be worse

[00:28:41] than Build Wars or whatever the fuck.

[00:28:43] Build King?

[00:28:44] Build King, yeah, I think it's worse than Build King.

[00:28:46] It's hard to say because SWAT is so bad.

[00:28:52] That's true.

[00:28:52] Do you wanna move it up more then?

[00:28:53] Fuck, I feel like you could get more out of Chagacha

[00:28:57] than SWAT, honestly.

[00:28:59] All right, how's it under Protect Me, Shigemaru?

[00:29:02] I think it's worse than Protect Me, Shigemaru.

[00:29:04] Fair enough.

[00:29:05] All right, now we're getting into our Patreon content.

[00:29:06] First we have Diesel, which we put in F tier.

[00:29:08] So we know this is better than Ginka and Luna,

[00:29:11] but we know it's worse than Ice Head Gil,

[00:29:13] so you've got about four series to play with.

[00:29:14] I would say it's better than Champagne

[00:29:17] because of how ridiculous to read.

[00:29:18] I agree, I agree.

[00:29:21] All right.

[00:29:22] The main thing that keeps it at that level is the length.

[00:29:26] Yeah.

[00:29:26] It makes it a really funny read

[00:29:29] because you just get in and out and you don't get...

[00:29:31] If it was 10 chapters, it would be FF,

[00:29:34] like the middle of FF, at least.

[00:29:39] But because it's one chapter, yeah, it's fine.

[00:29:41] It's really funny and kind of really interesting to see.

[00:29:45] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:29:46] The bad guy's name is Bofa.

[00:29:48] I'm sorry, I keep going back to that.

[00:29:51] All right, Jordan, for the interest of time,

[00:29:52] now we have Sand Land.

[00:29:53] Where are you putting that?

[00:29:54] That's S tier.

[00:29:55] I would say it is better than High School Family.

[00:29:58] Yeah, it's not as good as Chainsaw Man or Look Back,

[00:30:00] but yes.

[00:30:01] Sand Land is kind of a classic, is the thing.

[00:30:04] And it didn't overstay its welcome, which was great.

[00:30:06] No, yeah.

[00:30:07] Next we have the right way to make jump.

[00:30:09] This is in C tier.

[00:30:10] This is below Takama.

[00:30:11] So, Jordan, its competition is Red Sprite

[00:30:14] through Monster Hunter or Raj.

[00:30:16] I think it's worse than Last Sea.

[00:30:20] Okay, that's fine.

[00:30:21] All right, next up we have Monsters,

[00:30:22] which Jordan said I forgot we read this.

[00:30:25] That was at the top of our C tier

[00:30:26] and it goes ahead of Takeke Ryusei.

[00:30:29] So, Jordan, I would say it is worse than Level E.

[00:30:33] I would agree.

[00:30:34] I think it's worse than Level E.

[00:30:35] What's between Takeke Ryusei and Monster?

[00:30:38] I don't recognize that series.

[00:30:40] Fuck, I always forget the name.

[00:30:41] That's to do with the house that we had with Red.

[00:30:43] Oh yeah!

[00:30:45] Fuck, I liked that series too.

[00:30:49] Do you want to put it past it?

[00:30:51] Okay, that's fine.

[00:30:52] And then finally, Jordan,

[00:30:53] tell us the name of the last series that we're putting in.

[00:30:55] The Ichinose Family's Deadly Sins.

[00:30:58] Oh, Jordan, great job.

[00:31:00] Nailed it.

[00:31:02] From Evangelion, that one.

[00:31:04] Congratulations.

[00:31:05] Congratulations, Jordan.

[00:31:07] Do do do do do do do do do do do.

[00:31:10] All right, this goes in D tier.

[00:31:13] It is going ahead of Grandpa G,

[00:31:15] so it doesn't have a ton of room.

[00:31:16] Is this better or worse than Dark Mage?

[00:31:18] I think it's better than Dark Mage.

[00:31:19] What about Robot Laserbeam?

[00:31:21] You mean the non-racist parts

[00:31:23] of Robot Laserbeam are better than it.

[00:31:25] Okay, fair enough.

[00:31:27] All right, so Jordan, we have our master list.

[00:31:28] I am not going to repeat this.

[00:31:29] People can see the screenshot.

[00:31:31] That's a lot of series.

[00:31:32] That's a lot of series.

[00:31:33] So Jordan, I want to say thank you so much

[00:31:34] for all of your hard work.

[00:31:36] This will be a fun one.

[00:31:37] We're at like gonna be,

[00:31:38] this is probably our longest thing ever for a TV,

[00:31:40] but thank you so much for your hard work.

[00:31:42] Oh, thank you so much, David,

[00:31:43] for everything that you've done

[00:31:44] for these past four years.

[00:31:47] Oh my.

[00:31:48] I also say props to Shannon for the awesome cover.

[00:31:50] Find her online at Illuminati.

[00:31:51] Thank you Dylan for assistance with editing.

[00:31:53] Find his podcast, Anime Out of Context

[00:31:55] at animeoutofcontext.com.

[00:31:56] Thanks to Tucker and MaxB for assistance

[00:31:58] with pronunciation, translation,

[00:31:59] other miscellaneous research.

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[00:32:23] Jordan, what is the bonus content

[00:32:25] we are dropping this month?

[00:32:26] Oh my God.

[00:32:28] Yeah, so for this month,

[00:32:29] we are recording our catch-up episode

[00:32:32] where we look over the art

[00:32:35] and the questions that we have covered.

[00:32:38] Sure, yeah.

[00:32:39] And we also are starting the Shonan Drop

[00:32:41] where we're doing a monthly recap series

[00:32:42] of the episodes.

[00:32:43] So we just wanted to catch up.

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[00:32:48] And if you become a patron,

[00:32:50] I'll send you some tokens,

[00:32:51] some magic gathering tokens

[00:32:52] which feature my goblin dog, Ravioli.

[00:32:55] Jordan just got some.

[00:32:56] I got them.

[00:32:57] They're wonderful.

[00:32:59] She is a very good girl.

[00:33:00] She is a good girl and she is a goblin.

[00:33:03] And you can find it at patreon.com

[00:33:04] slash ShonanFlop

[00:33:05] and I wanna read some of our wonderful patrons.

[00:33:07] Also fun fact everybody,

[00:33:10] David's like his favorite tabs

[00:33:13] include a Mirror's Edge review.

[00:33:17] Thanks Jordan.

[00:33:18] Starting with our Dolphin Dads,

[00:33:20] we have Glorinac, Rachel, my wonderful wife.

[00:33:22] She's having a great time right now.

[00:33:23] She sent me some cake yesterday

[00:33:25] and she bought me a copy of Hades 2

[00:33:26] so I could play it while she was on vacation.

[00:33:28] Oh, David bought me a copy of Hades 2.

[00:33:31] Yeah, happy birthday.

[00:33:32] Even though your birthday is not till August.

[00:33:34] Hell yeah.

[00:33:35] Even though my birthday is in August.

[00:33:38] Then we have RulisaB in the room

[00:33:39] to create a sense of danger.

[00:33:41] Moving on down to the Ravioli tier

[00:33:42] where Ravioli is such a silly dog.

[00:33:44] She invented another stretch.

[00:33:45] She created the cat stretch

[00:33:46] where she just, she puts all her feet together

[00:33:48] and stretches her back out.

[00:33:49] It's very silly.

[00:33:50] We have Chris, Eva, Lady T, Matt, T, and Trevor Schechner.

[00:33:54] Moving on down to the King of the Forest,

[00:33:55] we have 090Z, Bandit Stoof, my girlfriend.

[00:33:59] Oh man.

[00:34:00] Chad Mason, Jacob Andrew Galloway,

[00:34:02] Justin Hefner, Kirby Mont, Marty, Max Baker,

[00:34:04] Riley, Sarah Hydra, T Wolfwood, and Tommy Boy.

[00:34:07] Moving on down to the Galactic Ball Federation Officers,

[00:34:09] we have a mid-sized Dan, Andrew Schnapp,

[00:34:11] Indies Islands, Ora, Blahmumu, Brandon M,

[00:34:13] Brian Sexton, David Ackerson, Dennis James Moan,

[00:34:16] Drogo Drew, Dylan, Nigel, Fax, Flash Cardman,

[00:34:18] Generic Man, Hans, High and Randall,

[00:34:20] Keanu, Manly Pihal, Marabara, Matt, Matt, Mike,

[00:34:22] obscure reference, knee slapper, Optimus Jory,

[00:34:25] Reporting, Resident Warhammer Nerd,

[00:34:27] Ryan Jasinski, Savia, Scott Fischler,

[00:34:29] Silly Rookie, Simba for Senpai Ash,

[00:34:31] Staghorn, Taperclip, Tucker Wotley,

[00:34:32] Wright, and ZZ Digital, and a big thank you

[00:34:34] as well to our Beast Children patrons as well.

[00:34:37] Thank you so much.

[00:34:37] I love all of you very much.

[00:34:38] And Jordan, you want to toss in anything?

[00:34:40] Yeah, check out Mission Ignition.

[00:34:41] Well, there you go.

[00:34:42] Yeah.

[00:34:43] All right.

[00:34:44] Thank you so much for listening.

[00:34:46] We'll see you next Monday as we give our full thoughts

[00:34:47] on Guardian of the Witch.

[00:34:48] It is our four year anniversary,

[00:34:49] so we are re-reviewing that series.

[00:34:51] Guardian of the Witch.

[00:34:55] Joining us will be Brandon Bovia.

[00:34:57] Whoa.

[00:34:59] This has been David.

[00:35:00] This has been Jordan.

[00:35:00] Thank you for listening to Showtime Flop.

[00:35:01] David Say it.

[00:35:02] Keep on flopping floppers.

[00:35:04] Bye.