#116.5 Yui Kamio Lets Loose! Trash or Gem?
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#116.5 Yui Kamio Lets Loose! Trash or Gem?

Oh great now there's two of them!

David and Jordan give their first thoughts on Shonen Jump manga Yui Kamio Lets Loose. Listen in as they give an overview of the first chapter, where they think it will go from there, and ultimately their "power word" to describe the series so far. They also dive into some listener questions.

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Credits:

• Manga by Shiibashi, Hiroshi

• Shonen Flop is hosted by David Weinberger and Jordan Forbes

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• Episode art by Shannon (IG: illuminyatea)

MAL Description:

Spoiled rich since birth, bored playboy Kiito Sonomiya starts a new year at school in the hopes that a girl of some interest will come his way. His wish comes true when a black-haired beauty confronts him—only to completely pummel him! Left indignant and full of vengeance, Kiito vows to find the mysterious girl and take revenge. His burning desire leaves him no time to pay attention to the popular new student, the angelic Yui Kamio, notable for her kind personality, stunning looks, and white, chain-bound hair.

One evening, Kiito runs into Yui and discovers she holds a secret. When the chain binding her hair is taken off, she transforms: both her clothes and hair turn black, and her personality takes a violent 180-degree turn. Kiito soon realizes that the black-haired girl he encountered earlier and Yui are one and the same.

Quickly tying the chain back and returning her to normal, Yui's friend Nao Ebisuno explains that it is all that restrains Yui's violent side. Now aware of her secret, Nao enlists Kiito to protect "Yui in White" and keep "Yui in Black" from coming forth and causing trouble. Finding himself drawn to this endeavor, Kiito is now dragged out of his comfortable life and into the wild world of Yui Kamio.

[00:00:00] Welcome to Shonen Flop Chibi, first impressions mini episode where we talk about the first chapter of the series we'll be covering in depth next week with our guest, translation analyst Lightning.

[00:00:11] Hell yeah, I wonder if they ride the Lightning. Wait, that means getting electrocuted to death, nevermind.

[00:00:15] Yeah. They probably don't do that. My bad, Lightning. Yeah, probably. You know what, I'd hope not.

[00:00:19] But we will bring the thunder. Yes. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[00:00:22] Uh, I'm Jordan, with me today as usual is my lovely co-host David. Say hi, David. Hi, David.

[00:00:28] What series we cover this week, David?

[00:00:30] Yui Kamio Lets Loose, which is probably the prequel to what you're gonna call it Under Control.

[00:00:36] Ichigo, yeah.

[00:00:36] Yeah, I was actually thinking about that because someone was like, what anime clearly the author had blatant fetishes?

[00:00:41] And I was like, let me tell you about this guy and his giant woman fetish.

[00:00:45] Uh, or wouldn't that be his tiny woman fetish?

[00:00:48] But she got giant at one chapter two.

[00:00:50] Right.

[00:00:52] It's really, you know, your fetish's favorite fetish, you know?

[00:00:56] Yeah.

[00:00:56] It's the Chapel Rhone of manga, where Chapel Rhone is your artist's favorite artist.

[00:01:00] I thought that was the Velvet Underground.

[00:01:02] Anyway, we're talking about Yui Kamio Lets Loose.

[00:01:06] Thank God that's the name we're going with and not the original.

[00:01:10] Yeah.

[00:01:11] Which is so complicated.

[00:01:12] But this is by Hiroshi Shibashi.

[00:01:15] And it ran from March 11th, 2019 to November 25th, 2019.

[00:01:21] 36 chapters and four volumes.

[00:01:23] This is the longest manga we've covered in a long time, David, I feel, you know?

[00:01:27] Yes.

[00:01:28] Maxi B was like, hey, do you mind doing one for me and covering this?

[00:01:31] And we're like, oh, Maxi B, it's the least we can do.

[00:01:33] Yeah.

[00:01:33] This is like a part of like a block of series that Maxi B has been waiting like two or three

[00:01:37] years for us to cover on the show.

[00:01:38] So Maxi B, we're more than happy to cover it for you.

[00:01:41] Absolutely.

[00:01:41] No, this is like easily twice the length of the past few series we've covered.

[00:01:45] Yeah.

[00:01:46] I even messaged Jordan.

[00:01:47] I was like, hey, just a heads up.

[00:01:48] This is way longer than what we've covered in the past.

[00:01:50] Yeah.

[00:01:51] Well, in recent memory, we've covered longer, but it's been a while.

[00:01:55] Yeah.

[00:01:55] Anyway, plot summary time.

[00:01:57] A young girl is tied to a pole while a bunch of monks talk about using a chain to seal away

[00:02:02] her power or something.

[00:02:04] Anyway, there's this guy named Kito who's like an asshole, but is also rich and hot.

[00:02:09] Super gigachad.jpg.

[00:02:11] Well, he thinks he is, David.

[00:02:13] Yeah.

[00:02:14] But yeah, so he and his posse push people around while his adoring female fans are all

[00:02:19] over him.

[00:02:20] Some kind of Justin Bieber, you know?

[00:02:23] Oh, this is in high school, by the way.

[00:02:25] It's like, this isn't just in public.

[00:02:27] It's like, it's high school.

[00:02:28] Yeah.

[00:02:28] But a girl named now gets pushed away by his posse and when her friend, Yui Kamiyo, who

[00:02:35] you might recognize from the title of the manga, who is all dressed in white and has white

[00:02:41] hair to show purity, I suppose, goes to help her.

[00:02:45] The chain in her hair, David, it gets caught on something and pulled away.

[00:02:49] Her hair and clothes immediately turn black somehow.

[00:02:52] She gets extremely violent and kicks the shit out of Kito before now is able to rush her

[00:02:58] away and chain up her hair again.

[00:02:59] Yui is, of course, the girl from the first page.

[00:03:02] She was apparently an extremely violent delinquent who was too much of a badass.

[00:03:07] Gotta love a boss, babe.

[00:03:09] They literally call her a girl boss later.

[00:03:11] Yeah, they really do.

[00:03:12] They literally do.

[00:03:12] So some monks decide to use enchanted chains in her hair to lock her evil side away.

[00:03:18] Popcorn David.

[00:03:19] That just sounds like the like Victorian science.

[00:03:22] I know.

[00:03:23] She's hysterical.

[00:03:24] Yeah.

[00:03:25] Make her do a fucking morphine about it.

[00:03:28] Man, you know, my wife.

[00:03:31] Am I right?

[00:03:32] Ha ha ha.

[00:03:33] Ha ha.

[00:03:34] Ha ha.

[00:03:34] Ha ha.

[00:03:35] Ha ha.

[00:03:35] Ha ha.

[00:03:37] Ha ha.

[00:03:38] Ha ha.

[00:03:38] Ha ha.

[00:03:53] Ha ha.

[00:03:55] Ha ha.

[00:03:59] Ha ha.

[00:04:00] Ha ha.

[00:04:01] Ha ha.

[00:04:07] Ha ha.

[00:04:09] Ha ha.

[00:04:09] Ha ha.

[00:04:10] Ha ha.

[00:04:11] Ha ha.

[00:04:11] and she goes nuts on the gang.

[00:04:12] She tells Kito that she won't tell anyone

[00:04:14] he's a fucking nerd

[00:04:15] if he agrees to use his money

[00:04:16] to cover up the violence.

[00:04:17] Now then, quickly jumps into Taiyu's hair up

[00:04:19] so she's a dumb, nice angel again.

[00:04:21] End of the first chapter.

[00:04:22] Wow.

[00:04:23] Wow.

[00:04:23] So what are your first impressions, David?

[00:04:26] I don't really know what the plot of this manga is.

[00:04:28] I don't know if there's a plot in this manga.

[00:04:31] I could not follow what there was,

[00:04:33] which is, no pun intended,

[00:04:34] there's like no linking thread

[00:04:36] between all of these scenes, really.

[00:04:37] It's just like a bunch of miscellaneous scenes.

[00:04:39] And I actually asked Maxi B and Maxi B's like,

[00:04:41] yeah, you know what?

[00:04:42] That's not a bad take.

[00:04:44] The plot, if there is one, has not shown itself.

[00:04:47] Yeah.

[00:04:48] It seems to just be like,

[00:04:50] oh, there's this girl, Yui,

[00:04:52] and oh my God, she is so beautiful and hot

[00:04:55] and oh my God, so sweet,

[00:04:57] but she got a dark side.

[00:04:59] And when she lets her hair down,

[00:05:02] she turns into the strongest,

[00:05:04] evilest badass in the whole world.

[00:05:07] Like, okay.

[00:05:08] I don't know.

[00:05:09] You're just like, yeah.

[00:05:11] You know, just because you make

[00:05:12] your female character physically strong

[00:05:14] doesn't make her like a strong female character.

[00:05:18] Like.

[00:05:18] This is just like a kind of like weird implication

[00:05:21] where it's like,

[00:05:21] oh, I can't have strong women in my Japanese manga.

[00:05:24] Yeah.

[00:05:24] Well, it's like strong women,

[00:05:25] like uproot society.

[00:05:27] Like they're a man.

[00:05:28] She sure is.

[00:05:29] She can't go around beating up

[00:05:31] these evil delinquent gangs.

[00:05:34] Maybe.

[00:05:34] Oh, maybe the cover art should be

[00:05:35] her dark side doing the we can do it pose

[00:05:38] like the Rosie the Riveter.

[00:05:39] I was imagining him as a Giga Chad

[00:05:42] nervously looking behind him

[00:05:43] and seeing Yui as a Giga Chad as well.

[00:05:46] Yeah.

[00:05:47] Maybe she's just T posing over him.

[00:05:49] Okay.

[00:05:50] Well, we'll figure it out.

[00:05:51] But yeah,

[00:05:51] I also think Kito,

[00:05:52] it seems like he's drawn

[00:05:53] like a Yowie manga character.

[00:05:54] Right?

[00:05:55] I see that.

[00:05:56] Yeah, I see that.

[00:05:58] I'll have to double check his hands,

[00:05:59] but he definitely looks like it.

[00:06:00] The first few pages feel like a BL thing.

[00:06:03] And I until like she shows up.

[00:06:05] I mean, like you.

[00:06:06] I don't know,

[00:06:07] because the first page you see

[00:06:08] is a woman tied up

[00:06:09] or a young girl tied up against a pole.

[00:06:12] Oh, yeah.

[00:06:12] That wasn't explained at all, was it?

[00:06:14] No.

[00:06:14] Well, what it was,

[00:06:15] was that was the monks

[00:06:16] trying to enchant the chain

[00:06:19] to hide away her power.

[00:06:21] But I didn't get that

[00:06:22] until a second reading.

[00:06:23] So I'm with you.

[00:06:24] I did not know

[00:06:24] what the fuck that was.

[00:06:25] I forgot about that color page,

[00:06:27] which also shows

[00:06:28] that was a terrible use

[00:06:28] of the color page.

[00:06:30] Yeah, it was just like

[00:06:31] when I opened it at first,

[00:06:33] there was like,

[00:06:34] why is this young girl

[00:06:35] tied up against her will

[00:06:37] where a bunch of guys like that?

[00:06:40] It read weird to me.

[00:06:42] It felt very odd

[00:06:44] in a kind of uncomfortable way.

[00:06:46] But yeah,

[00:06:47] after reading it again,

[00:06:48] like it seems like that was

[00:06:50] because they mentioned

[00:06:51] some monks enchanted chain

[00:06:53] to tie away her evil self.

[00:06:55] And I'm pretty sure

[00:06:56] that's what it was.

[00:06:57] That was the scene

[00:06:57] we were watching.

[00:06:58] But it was like,

[00:06:59] wasn't super well explained.

[00:07:01] Also, wow,

[00:07:02] her outfit turns black.

[00:07:04] Interesting.

[00:07:05] Right?

[00:07:05] Like, oh, crazy.

[00:07:07] Like, the Sendaria levels

[00:07:08] are off the charts of her,

[00:07:09] of course.

[00:07:10] I do not know

[00:07:10] if you could be

[00:07:11] a more powerful Sendaria

[00:07:12] that she literally has

[00:07:13] one of her other sides

[00:07:14] be a different person.

[00:07:15] Yeah.

[00:07:15] And also,

[00:07:16] her nice side

[00:07:18] seems to be a fucking idiot.

[00:07:19] I don't know.

[00:07:20] I get that vibe.

[00:07:21] Yeah.

[00:07:21] I don't like,

[00:07:22] like she meets Kito

[00:07:23] and she's like,

[00:07:23] oh, he's like a saint.

[00:07:25] And like, no, he's not.

[00:07:26] You're a bad judging character.

[00:07:28] Yeah.

[00:07:28] I do also feel Kito

[00:07:29] just feels like Jotaro

[00:07:30] from Jojo Part 3.

[00:07:32] Really?

[00:07:32] I mean,

[00:07:33] he just is like that gigage.

[00:07:34] The first two chapters,

[00:07:35] he's like,

[00:07:35] he's going to beat him up, right?

[00:07:37] I don't know.

[00:07:37] He seems like

[00:07:38] kind of a fucking wimp.

[00:07:39] Yeah, that's true.

[00:07:40] He's kind of a bitch.

[00:07:41] I don't know.

[00:07:41] Like, he wants to like

[00:07:42] use his money

[00:07:43] to solve everything.

[00:07:45] When the bad guys show up,

[00:07:46] he's like,

[00:07:46] I'm going to call the cops on you

[00:07:47] and you're going to be arrested

[00:07:49] for possession of deadly weapons charges.

[00:07:51] Like, that's not a Jotaro move.

[00:07:54] Yeah, I feel like

[00:07:55] a lot of my implication

[00:07:56] was just from the first

[00:07:57] like four chapters

[00:07:57] and just kind of stuck.

[00:07:58] You mean the first four pages, David.

[00:08:00] We haven't read the first four pages.

[00:08:01] How much of this series

[00:08:02] did you read?

[00:08:03] No, you're right.

[00:08:04] Imagine all,

[00:08:05] that's how all my guesses are right.

[00:08:06] Yeah, they're all right

[00:08:07] because you just read

[00:08:08] the whole series.

[00:08:09] Because I just cheated.

[00:08:10] Yeah.

[00:08:10] But yeah,

[00:08:10] this also feels like

[00:08:11] a 90s manga again

[00:08:12] with the very,

[00:08:13] like the fear of having

[00:08:14] strong female characters

[00:08:15] and kind of villainizing that idea.

[00:08:16] It's not even that,

[00:08:17] it's just the whole thing

[00:08:18] does feel older.

[00:08:20] Like the idea of like

[00:08:21] this delinquent girl

[00:08:22] who changes who she is.

[00:08:24] Like, I don't know.

[00:08:25] It's like,

[00:08:26] there's something about that

[00:08:27] that definitely feels

[00:08:28] like an older manga concept.

[00:08:30] I can't put my finger on it.

[00:08:32] It just feels older.

[00:08:33] I feel like every time

[00:08:33] we don't really think

[00:08:34] a manga is good,

[00:08:34] we're like,

[00:08:35] oh, this just feels so vintage.

[00:08:36] I don't know.

[00:08:37] Like, it's also-

[00:08:38] Well, it's until 2015

[00:08:39] they figured out

[00:08:39] how to make good manga.

[00:08:40] Yeah.

[00:08:41] It's also like

[00:08:41] the weird semi-fetishization

[00:08:44] of the sailor suit

[00:08:45] that I'm getting.

[00:08:46] Oh, that's true too.

[00:08:47] Yeah, the sailor uniform

[00:08:48] just feels so 90s.

[00:08:50] Like, I know obviously

[00:08:51] it's-

[00:08:52] it never went away,

[00:08:53] but it just-

[00:08:54] the focus on it

[00:08:55] just feels very 90s.

[00:08:57] Yeah.

[00:08:57] And then, so Jordan,

[00:08:58] would you read

[00:08:58] our 10 chapters of this?

[00:08:59] Nah.

[00:09:00] Nah.

[00:09:00] I would not.

[00:09:01] Nah.

[00:09:02] There isn't like

[00:09:02] a plot thread.

[00:09:03] Yeah, there's-

[00:09:04] I don't know why

[00:09:05] it would keep-

[00:09:05] and this goes for 36 chapters,

[00:09:07] so something has to happen, right?

[00:09:08] Yeah.

[00:09:09] I mean, I don't know.

[00:09:10] I'm not intrigued

[00:09:11] by any of the characters.

[00:09:14] Now is probably

[00:09:15] the most interesting

[00:09:16] and she's not even

[00:09:17] that interesting.

[00:09:18] Yeah.

[00:09:19] I did like the moment

[00:09:20] where she, like,

[00:09:21] jumped on Yui

[00:09:22] and, like,

[00:09:23] very quickly tied up her hair

[00:09:24] before she could do anything.

[00:09:25] But no, I mean,

[00:09:26] Yui's-

[00:09:27] both of Yui's sides

[00:09:28] seem very uninteresting.

[00:09:30] Yeah.

[00:09:31] Boss bitch to bland bitch.

[00:09:32] The dark side

[00:09:33] is slightly more interesting,

[00:09:35] but, like,

[00:09:35] not really.

[00:09:36] It's just kind of like

[00:09:37] she has two completely

[00:09:40] one-dimensional characters

[00:09:41] pushed into one body

[00:09:44] and it doesn't do anything.

[00:09:45] It's just like,

[00:09:46] oh, good side, evil side,

[00:09:47] you know?

[00:09:48] Inside of you are two wolves

[00:09:49] and neither of them

[00:09:50] are well-developed characters.

[00:09:51] Like, Aza.

[00:09:52] Aza is, like,

[00:09:53] a good version of this

[00:09:54] where it's like

[00:09:55] Aza is a deeply flawed character

[00:09:57] but, like,

[00:09:58] Yoru is clearly more evil.

[00:10:00] Yeah.

[00:10:00] You know what I mean?

[00:10:01] Like, Yoru's the war devil.

[00:10:02] But it's not like

[00:10:04] all Yoru is, like,

[00:10:05] also a pure evil character.

[00:10:07] It's like there's

[00:10:08] a lot of nuance there.

[00:10:09] I don't get any nuance

[00:10:10] from these characters.

[00:10:12] No, it's just generic

[00:10:13] super good character

[00:10:14] or generic super,

[00:10:15] like, I guess,

[00:10:15] mean character.

[00:10:16] She's not bad.

[00:10:16] She's just mean, I guess.

[00:10:17] Man, it's amazing

[00:10:18] how, like,

[00:10:19] the best thing

[00:10:20] a hot girl can be

[00:10:22] is, like,

[00:10:22] dumb and pretty

[00:10:23] and, like,

[00:10:24] nice.

[00:10:25] Like, I don't know.

[00:10:26] That just rubs me

[00:10:27] the wrong way.

[00:10:28] Yeah.

[00:10:28] And so, Jordan,

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[00:10:45] Yes.

[00:10:45] And Jordan,

[00:10:46] so what do you think

[00:10:46] I'll have next?

[00:10:47] I think that, David,

[00:10:48] eventually,

[00:10:49] Yui will find the balance

[00:10:50] between the angle

[00:10:52] and the devil form.

[00:10:53] Yeah, that's actually

[00:10:54] what I had to.

[00:11:04] Oh, yeah, I never thought

[00:11:05] they were going to explain it.

[00:11:07] No, and I think

[00:11:08] that Yui's parents

[00:11:09] were involved with

[00:11:10] some magic shit,

[00:11:11] which is why she's so evil.

[00:11:12] All right, in minor,

[00:11:13] Yui learns how to change

[00:11:14] forms at will,

[00:11:15] which is similar to Jordan's.

[00:11:16] The difference here is

[00:11:18] you have,

[00:11:19] she can change forms at will,

[00:11:20] I just think both forms

[00:11:22] will fuse.

[00:11:23] Interesting.

[00:11:24] And she will go from

[00:11:25] being a two-dimensional character

[00:11:27] to a slightly more complex one.

[00:11:29] Yeah, you know what,

[00:11:30] that's fair,

[00:11:30] but we'll see.

[00:11:31] So one of us

[00:11:32] maybe will be right.

[00:11:32] Yeah, we're going to meet

[00:11:33] another person who has a,

[00:11:36] who has the same cursed item

[00:11:37] where they have two sides

[00:11:38] that are being restrained

[00:11:39] by some sort of magical item.

[00:11:40] And I do think the series

[00:11:41] will end with a time skip

[00:11:42] and Kido will be a vet.

[00:11:45] That's fair.

[00:11:47] Oh, man.

[00:11:48] All right, and Jordan,

[00:11:48] what's your power word?

[00:11:50] One word, girl boss.

[00:11:51] Yep, and mine is loose

[00:11:53] because this,

[00:11:53] despite having a chain,

[00:11:54] has very loose plot threads.

[00:11:56] It is not tied very tightly.

[00:11:58] Not tight.

[00:11:59] All right, but you know what is tight?

[00:12:00] I can't believe David

[00:12:01] is calling women loose.

[00:12:02] It's fucking fuck off.

[00:12:04] Unbelievable.

[00:12:05] Jesus Christ.

[00:12:06] Yeah, I was listening to Hamilton

[00:12:08] and they say,

[00:12:09] oh, maybe we'll have like

[00:12:10] a woman president in the sequel.

[00:12:11] And I was like,

[00:12:11] oh, that, oh,

[00:12:13] I really hope so.

[00:12:15] Oh, man,

[00:12:16] that has been bad.

[00:12:17] This is not a good month

[00:12:18] to listen to Hamilton.

[00:12:19] Man, you know,

[00:12:20] it's funny because like

[00:12:21] I've kind of been mid on Hamilton,

[00:12:24] but like the guy

[00:12:25] who I believe does Thomas Jefferson

[00:12:27] has this fucking awesome rap group

[00:12:30] named Clipping.

[00:12:31] Highly recommend.

[00:12:32] It just goes through the wall

[00:12:33] at the end of it.

[00:12:34] Yeah.

[00:12:34] All right, listeners,

[00:12:35] someone, listeners,

[00:12:36] you can time it.

[00:12:36] You can leave a comment

[00:12:37] and explain to Jordan

[00:12:38] why that joke was funny.

[00:12:39] No, that took me a sec,

[00:12:40] but I get it.

[00:12:41] I don't know why it took me a second

[00:12:42] because I think about it

[00:12:44] every time I see the name.

[00:12:46] So I don't know why

[00:12:47] that took me a second,

[00:12:48] but it did.

[00:12:49] Whatever.

[00:12:49] I get it.

[00:12:50] I get the joke.

[00:12:51] I watch AGDQ, okay?

[00:12:54] Oh, man.

[00:12:55] All right.

[00:12:55] But anyway,

[00:12:56] onto the Q&A.

[00:12:57] As a reminder,

[00:12:57] you can drop your questions

[00:12:58] in the show and flop discord.

[00:12:59] We give priority

[00:12:59] to those who haven't asked

[00:13:00] a question before our patrons

[00:13:01] or haven't had a question

[00:13:02] answered in a long time.

[00:13:03] Starting from Riley,

[00:13:04] what is the worst media recommendation

[00:13:06] you've received from someone

[00:13:07] whose taste you otherwise respect?

[00:13:09] I've had multiple people be like,

[00:13:11] hey, Jordan, you know,

[00:13:12] you like metal.

[00:13:13] You like like goth music and stuff.

[00:13:15] You know, you like Rocky Horror.

[00:13:17] Hey, have you heard about this thing

[00:13:18] called Repo the Genetic Opera?

[00:13:20] Repo the Genetic Opera sucks.

[00:13:22] Really?

[00:13:23] It sucks.

[00:13:24] It's like, I'm sorry if you like it,

[00:13:26] but I think it is bad.

[00:13:28] Yeah.

[00:13:28] It's trying to so hard to be campy

[00:13:31] and it has like this industrial metal

[00:13:33] soundtrack, which just ends up

[00:13:35] feeling so generic.

[00:13:36] All the songs sound like the same.

[00:13:38] Yeah.

[00:13:39] Except for maybe like one.

[00:13:40] It's got like Anthony Stewart head

[00:13:42] from Buffy the Vampire Slayer in it.

[00:13:45] And one of the main actresses

[00:13:47] is fucking Paris Hilton.

[00:13:49] That sounds amazing, man.

[00:13:50] It sounds amazing.

[00:13:51] And then you watch it

[00:13:52] and I'm like, this is lame.

[00:13:54] This is boring.

[00:13:55] It's trying too hard.

[00:13:56] You know what?

[00:13:57] That's fair.

[00:13:57] Yeah.

[00:13:58] People kept recommending I read

[00:13:59] Oh, I Think It's Touching Me,

[00:14:00] which is about like a cross-dressing dentist.

[00:14:02] And like I read like 10 chapters of it

[00:14:04] and it's like,

[00:14:04] I just didn't really get

[00:14:05] why everyone likes that series so much.

[00:14:07] You know?

[00:14:07] This just immediately reminds me of when I went to,

[00:14:10] I was going to go,

[00:14:11] I think I've told this story before.

[00:14:13] I was in college

[00:14:14] and I went to this anime club

[00:14:16] and they're like,

[00:14:16] hey, we're going to watch this anime.

[00:14:18] I know what this name sounds like,

[00:14:20] but I promise it's not weird.

[00:14:22] It's Hentai Kamen.

[00:14:22] It was my little sister can't be this cute.

[00:14:25] Oh yeah, you should have just walked out.

[00:14:26] Yeah, I kind of did.

[00:14:28] I was like,

[00:14:29] they were like,

[00:14:29] it's not weird, I promise.

[00:14:30] And I like,

[00:14:31] I watched an episode

[00:14:32] and I'm like,

[00:14:32] no, this is weird actually.

[00:14:35] Oh man.

[00:14:36] Next question from Team Wolfwood.

[00:14:37] Would you rather pay for Luffy's bill

[00:14:38] at a restaurant,

[00:14:39] Zoro's bar tab,

[00:14:40] or let Nami borrow your credit card for an hour?

[00:14:42] I mean,

[00:14:43] I feel like I can't lose more money

[00:14:45] if Nami takes my credit card.

[00:14:47] I mean, part of it,

[00:14:48] it's like,

[00:14:48] if it's Zoro,

[00:14:49] it's like,

[00:14:50] what are they going to do

[00:14:50] if I don't pay it?

[00:14:51] Yeah.

[00:14:52] You're going to come after Zoro

[00:14:53] for his bar tab?

[00:14:54] Well, they'd come after you.

[00:14:55] I think the idea is like,

[00:14:56] you tell,

[00:14:56] like,

[00:14:57] they know you're paying for him.

[00:14:58] Same with Luffy.

[00:14:59] Here's the thing.

[00:15:00] Here's the thing.

[00:15:01] I could let Nami borrow my credit card

[00:15:03] and then cancel my credit card.

[00:15:04] Yes, that's what I was thinking.

[00:15:05] Or the alternative is

[00:15:06] you just go to an all you can eat buffet

[00:15:07] and you just pay for Luffy's entrance

[00:15:09] and then it's like capped, right?

[00:15:11] Yeah.

[00:15:11] Because what else is he going to do?

[00:15:13] Zoro's bar tab is the worst.

[00:15:14] Yeah.

[00:15:15] In this situation, actually.

[00:15:16] Exactly.

[00:15:17] But I was also with you

[00:15:18] where you can just cancel the card

[00:15:19] after you give it to her.

[00:15:20] Yeah.

[00:15:20] So probably that.

[00:15:22] I can dispute payments.

[00:15:23] I can be like,

[00:15:24] hey,

[00:15:25] my credit card was stolen

[00:15:26] or something, you know?

[00:15:28] Because also if Nami wants your credit card,

[00:15:30] it doesn't matter if you agree

[00:15:31] to let her have it or not.

[00:15:32] She's going to take it.

[00:15:34] Next up from Glornack Ironspawn.

[00:15:35] Since you two have started doing the show,

[00:15:37] do you find you casually reading manga

[00:15:38] is more or less enjoyable than before?

[00:15:40] I feel Jordan,

[00:15:41] you'd be like,

[00:15:41] I don't casually read manga,

[00:15:42] so it hasn't changed.

[00:15:43] Yeah.

[00:15:44] I mean,

[00:15:44] there are some exceptions.

[00:15:45] I don't know.

[00:15:46] I feel like I can appreciate

[00:15:48] when a manga is good more,

[00:15:51] but like, you know,

[00:15:51] it's I have higher standards

[00:15:53] for my media now.

[00:15:55] Yeah.

[00:15:55] Basically, you know,

[00:15:56] which is good.

[00:15:56] You know,

[00:15:57] you get more out of good things.

[00:15:59] You put it,

[00:16:00] you get in.

[00:16:00] But yeah,

[00:16:01] I definitely am pickier

[00:16:03] about what I read now

[00:16:04] because it's like,

[00:16:04] if I want to read something mediocre,

[00:16:05] I have to do it for the show anyway.

[00:16:07] So it's definitely made me

[00:16:08] more judgmental,

[00:16:08] but there's still a lot of series

[00:16:10] like the bugle call.

[00:16:10] I'm trying to get everyone in

[00:16:12] or which was or which watch

[00:16:13] that I was trying to get everyone to read.

[00:16:15] So it's like,

[00:16:15] I do still have these series

[00:16:16] I feel aren't appreciated enough

[00:16:18] that I'm also like,

[00:16:19] oh man,

[00:16:19] I really wish I was reading that

[00:16:20] instead of this

[00:16:21] when I'm reading something shitty.

[00:16:22] It's like the last few magas

[00:16:24] we've been covering.

[00:16:24] I think that doing this,

[00:16:26] you learn to appreciate things

[00:16:28] that are better far more.

[00:16:30] Yeah.

[00:16:31] You know,

[00:16:31] because you know

[00:16:32] what the bad stuff looks like.

[00:16:34] So when something does well,

[00:16:35] it's like,

[00:16:36] because you can see

[00:16:36] how something can go wrong.

[00:16:38] Yeah.

[00:16:38] So it's like when they do well,

[00:16:40] it's like,

[00:16:40] wow,

[00:16:40] you know,

[00:16:41] they really pull this off.

[00:16:43] I completely agree.

[00:16:44] All right.

[00:16:44] Next up from Redblade.

[00:16:45] What is your greatest strength?

[00:16:46] Ghost type moves.

[00:16:48] I guess in that note,

[00:16:50] Earthquake.

[00:16:50] It's a really,

[00:16:51] really great,

[00:16:51] powerful,

[00:16:52] consistent move.

[00:16:52] And then Jordan,

[00:16:53] what's your greatest weakness?

[00:16:53] I am weak to fire.

[00:16:56] I'm weak to water types.

[00:16:58] All right.

[00:16:59] Finally,

[00:16:59] from Max TV,

[00:17:00] what is the earliest book

[00:17:02] you remember reading as a child?

[00:17:04] So like the earliest

[00:17:05] quote unquote chapter book

[00:17:07] that I remember reading

[00:17:08] as a kid

[00:17:09] was this book called

[00:17:11] Brad and Butter Play Ball,

[00:17:14] which was like

[00:17:15] a book about little league kids.

[00:17:17] And I remember thinking

[00:17:18] it was the funniest thing

[00:17:19] I'd ever read

[00:17:20] in my entire fucking life.

[00:17:22] and my entire life

[00:17:24] was six years.

[00:17:25] Kino.

[00:17:26] Yeah,

[00:17:26] it should be adapted.

[00:17:27] I think Martin Scorsese

[00:17:28] should have direct

[00:17:29] an adaptation

[00:17:30] of Brad and Butter

[00:17:31] Play Ball.

[00:17:32] Okay,

[00:17:32] I'll let him know.

[00:17:33] By the way,

[00:17:34] David,

[00:17:34] his name was Butter

[00:17:35] because he was fat.

[00:17:36] Oh,

[00:17:36] okay.

[00:17:37] Talk about a Butter Ball.

[00:17:38] Yeah.

[00:17:38] Mine was,

[00:17:39] I do remember

[00:17:40] the Magic Treehouse.

[00:17:41] That was pretty great.

[00:17:42] Captain Underpants,

[00:17:43] of course.

[00:17:43] Oh,

[00:17:44] Magic Treehouse.

[00:17:45] Yeah,

[00:17:46] that shit kicked ass,

[00:17:47] man.

[00:17:47] Was that an isekai?

[00:17:48] Yeah,

[00:17:49] I think so.

[00:17:50] I mean,

[00:17:51] if Lion the Witch

[00:17:51] It's complicated.

[00:17:52] If Lion the Witch

[00:17:53] and the Wardrobe

[00:17:54] is an isekai,

[00:17:55] which I think it is.

[00:17:56] Oh,

[00:17:56] the Magic Treehouse

[00:17:57] was time travel,

[00:17:58] right?

[00:17:58] It was also,

[00:17:59] like,

[00:17:59] they were moving places,

[00:18:00] too.

[00:18:01] It wasn't just time travel.

[00:18:02] Yeah.

[00:18:02] I think,

[00:18:03] like,

[00:18:03] I think they went

[00:18:03] to,

[00:18:04] like,

[00:18:04] another planet.

[00:18:05] I don't remember.

[00:18:05] Like,

[00:18:05] there were a lot of them.

[00:18:06] I know they met ninjas

[00:18:07] at one point.

[00:18:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:10] Oh,

[00:18:10] man.

[00:18:10] All right.

[00:18:11] But that is all the time

[00:18:11] we have for today,

[00:18:12] Jordan.

[00:18:12] I want to say thank you

[00:18:13] so much for all your hard work

[00:18:14] on the show.

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[00:18:25] for assistance with

[00:18:26] pronunciation,

[00:18:26] translation,

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[00:19:08] Jordan,

[00:19:09] what was going on

[00:19:09] in ShonenFlop

[00:19:10] in the month of December?

[00:19:11] David,

[00:19:14] we're covering

[00:19:15] Hentai Kaven.

[00:19:16] With who?

[00:19:17] With Shen.

[00:19:18] From Shen Comics.

[00:19:19] Yeah.

[00:19:20] And what was in the mystery box?

[00:19:21] If you had to teach

[00:19:23] an arts expression manga class,

[00:19:24] what would you include?

[00:19:26] Which still kind of feels

[00:19:27] like word salad to me.

[00:19:29] You never had

[00:19:29] an arts of expression class?

[00:19:30] No.

[00:19:31] It's just a class

[00:19:31] that's like on a top.

[00:19:32] I had like an arts of expression

[00:19:33] zombie class

[00:19:34] and we just looked at

[00:19:35] a bunch of zombie media

[00:19:36] and talked about it

[00:19:36] for a semester.

[00:19:37] Right.

[00:19:38] You invented that class, right?

[00:19:40] I invented the topic

[00:19:41] for that class.

[00:19:41] I didn't invent the idea

[00:19:42] of an arts of expression.

[00:19:43] Okay.

[00:19:44] Did you run the class?

[00:19:46] What the fuck?

[00:19:46] No.

[00:19:46] I just suggested

[00:19:48] that we play Left 4 Dead.

[00:19:49] Or no,

[00:19:49] I suggested we play

[00:19:50] The Walking Dead game.

[00:19:51] It was a really cool class.

[00:19:52] We read Reanimator.

[00:19:54] It sounds fun.

[00:19:55] I had a great time.

[00:19:56] I made a zombie board game.

[00:19:57] I believe that you had

[00:19:58] a great time.

[00:19:59] Anyway,

[00:19:59] if that's not enough,

[00:20:01] other perks include

[00:20:01] picking a manga

[00:20:02] for us to cover

[00:20:03] in a main episode.

[00:20:04] Episodes up to a week

[00:20:04] in advance

[00:20:05] and behind the scenes content

[00:20:06] like warm up audio

[00:20:07] or recording notes.

[00:20:08] I also want to read off

[00:20:08] some of our wonderful patrons.

[00:20:10] Starting with our

[00:20:10] Dolphin Dats,

[00:20:11] we have Gloranak

[00:20:11] and Rachel,

[00:20:12] my wonderful wife.

[00:20:13] Oh man,

[00:20:14] she's been helping me

[00:20:14] declare the house today.

[00:20:15] Moving on down

[00:20:15] to the Ravioli tier

[00:20:16] where Ravioli didn't want

[00:20:18] to shower so she tried

[00:20:19] running into her crate

[00:20:20] hoping that would protect her.

[00:20:21] It did not.

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[00:20:23] Lady T,

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[00:21:02] Oh,

[00:21:07] thank you,

[00:21:07] I love you all,

[00:21:08] and thank you to my wonderful girlfriend,

[00:21:10] Steph.

[00:21:11] Oh yes,

[00:21:12] I was really zooming through it.

[00:21:13] Alright,

[00:21:13] well,

[00:21:13] thank you so much for listening.

[00:21:14] Tune in next Monday as we give our full thoughts on you and Camille Let's Loose,

[00:21:18] featuring translation analyst Lightning.

[00:21:20] Yes,

[00:21:21] yes,

[00:21:22] this has been Jordan,

[00:21:23] this has been David,

[00:21:23] and you've been listening to Sean and Flop,

[00:21:25] David say it,

[00:21:26] keep on Flop Floppers.

[00:21:27] Bye.

[00:21:27] Bye.