#38 Bokkesan (Ft. Reborn Pyro from Schreddit)

[Transcript by OzyRat]

David  0:00  
[Intro music] Welcome to this episode of Shonen Flop, where we talk about manga series in Shonen Jump that didn't make it big. I'm David.

Jordan  0:18  
I'm Jordan. 

David  0:18  
This week we're talking about Bokke-san, and we're joined by our guest today, Reborn. 

Reborn Pyro  0:23  
Hello. 

David  0:24  
Thank you so much for joining us on this-- 

Reborn Pyro  0:26  
Hell yeah. 

David  0:27  
--very interesting manga journey. 

Jordan  0:29  
Oh, yes. 

David  0:29  
Can you tell the audience a little bit about yourself?

Reborn Pyro  0:31  
My name is Reborn Pyro. I run a show called Schreddit where we take, uh, toxic subreddits every week and we, uh, point and laugh at them. [laughs]

David  0:39  
That's great. 

Jordan  0:40  
Wow, I bet you have some really cool guests on there. 

Reborn Pyro  0:43  
Yeah, I'm sure we do. [David and Reborn laugh]

Jordan  0:45  
Some really cool people who might be on an episode.

Reborn Pyro  0:48  
Mmmm.

David  0:48  
I don't believe in listening to podcasts or using Reddit, so I'll assume that Jordan is joking that he was on the show. [Reborn Pyro laughs] It's ironic cuz he is not a quality guest.

Jordan  0:57  
[groans] Oh.

David  0:58  
Got him.

Jordan  0:58  
You know what, David? Fine. I'm just gonna [Reborn Pyro laughs] leave. If you're gonna treat me like this. I swear. My therapist says I should stop putting up with this shit. So whatever. [Reborn Pyro laughs]

David  1:08  
Oh, I love you.

Jordan  1:09  
Thank you.

Reborn Pyro  1:10  
But no, he's, uh, he's an amazing guest. Uh, th-the--

Jordan  1:13  
Awww.

Reborn Pyro  1:13  
--episode with him on it was really fun. And we're about to do another one shortly.

Jordan  1:17  
Yeah. 

David  1:18  
Oh, I'm jealous. I was on a recording on Friday with this dude, Dan, who was British who just joined the discord about D&D items. So it's always fun to be on a show because then you don't have to do any of the hard parts. You just--

Jordan  1:27  
Right?

David  1:27  
--gotta talk for 45 minutes. 

Reborn Pyro  1:28  
Exactly.

David  1:29  
Yeah. [David and Jordan laugh] 

Jordan  1:30  
Pyro, you didn't have to write the plot summary for this. So...

David  1:33  
Uh, why don't we actually jump into-oh my god, Jordan. We completely forgot to determine section leaders. 

Jordan  1:39  
Oh, boy. 

David  1:40  
Aw, fuck. You know, I'm just gonna call on whoever I feel-this is like jazz. I just want to be done talking about this series as soon as we [Reborn Pyro laughs] can.

Jordan  1:46  
It's about the-the people you don't call on.

David  1:48  
[laughs] Let's get into th-the manga details. This [laughing] series was created by Yoshiyuki Nishi, who was a former assistant of Takeshi Obata creator of Death Note and Hikaru no Go. So clearly he didn't learn anything about making good manga. 

Reborn Pyro  2:03  
Whoa!

Jordan  2:03  
Well... 

David  2:04  
What?

Jordan  2:04  
Well, the thing is apparently he was already successfu-like, I thought this was, like, the first series by a guy who's just starting out.

David  2:11  
No. He made a few things. Oh, I was gonna say that. I wonder if the dude made Bakuman after he read this because Bakuman started like a year after the series. Like, okay, clearly I need to teach people how to make good manga. [Jordan laughs] My assistant didn't get it. [Reborn Pyro laughs]

Reborn Pyro  2:25  
Well, this author's manga is not the best. His, uh, more recent work. Sorry, [Jordan laughs] definitely. [laughs]

David  2:31  
So that's a really good segue to his other work. So I'll say in terms of conventional other works, his most famous one was Mio to Rio, which actually got two anime seasons. 

Jordan  2:40  
Muhyo to Roji. 

David  2:42  
Sure. Why not? Tucker is pulling his hair out right now.

Jordan  2:45  
He is.

David  2:46  
That's fine. And so it actually was created before this series. So the timeline of the anime adaption because it got adapted, like, 12 years after it was created. So I don't really understand how they adapted something that old because that seems very strange. 

Jordan  2:57  
Feels like they were just like, fuck, we got to adapt something. I can't think of anything. Well, what about this manga that, like, I remember seeing one time, like, 12 years ago? It was all right. Okay, cool. Let's do it. Because it was adapted in 2018.

David  3:11  
Right? So it's just-I don't know, I'm sure there's other cases... 

Jordan  3:14  
I mean Jojo. Well, that didn't end but, you know.

David  3:16  
Because Jojo's still massive.

Jordan  3:18  
Well, yeah, that's the thing. Jojo got it because it was just so fucking massive that they were like, well yeah, let's adapt, like, an incredibly popular manga. I don't know how this happened.

David  3:27  
Maybe it was a favor or someone put in a request because what's he currently doing now, guys?

Jordan  3:32  
Oh, boy. You want to say it,  Pyro. I know y-I know you're pretty interested in it.

Reborn Pyro  3:37  
Ok-okay.

David  3:37  
 I like how we're, like, we're gonna call him Reborn so it's not confusing what his name is and then you just immediately switched.

I told you I was going to call [Reborn Pyro laughs] him Pyro. You were the one who called him Reborn. 

Yeah, I thought we agreed.

Jordan  3:46  
I didn't agree on--

David  3:46  
Alright--

Jordan  3:46  
--shit.

David  3:47  
--fuck it. Whatever.

Reborn Pyro  3:48  
There are two types of people: one that say Reborn and the other that say Pyro.

David  3:52  
They both have social anxiety. 

Jordan  3:53  
Absolutely.

Reborn Pyro  3:54  
[laughs] This guy creates a-adult, uh, anime drawings--

David  4:00  
Porn.

Reborn Pyro  4:00  
--on Twitter. 

David  4:00  
He makes porn.

Reborn Pyro  4:01  
 Yes, yes, to be more explicit--

Jordan  4:03  
AKA hentai. 

Reborn Pyro  4:04  
He also has a really cool V-tuber model and he is a V-tuber on YouTube. He only plays Minecraft [inaudible]

Jordan  4:11  
Massive titties on that V-tube model. MASSIVE ones.

Reborn Pyro  4:15  
After watching about, you know, 15 minutes of the stream, I do have to say it retro-actively makes all of his works [indecipherable]--

Jordan  4:21  
Mmhmm.

Reborn Pyro  4:21  
--and I simp. All [Jordan laughs] hail the king. [laughs]

David  4:25  
That's a very interesting reason to say that's why you thought this was a great manga. But [laughs] sure, we'll-we'll definitely argue that at the end of the show.

Jordan  4:33  
Spending, like, two hours arguing about the quality of a V-tuber's titties.

David  4:37  
Yeah, I was really, really close to this being the series where we just don't talk about the manga and we do whatever or something else because I was like, guys, let's just talk about, uh-I forget, like, Dandadan is not the way you're supposed to say it but I forget the proper pronunciation of it. So I'm just gonna keep saying it like that.

Jordan  4:50  
Weren't you on a podcast with that guy? Recently? 

David  4:53  
Dan? Yeah, literally two days ago we talked about--

Jordan  4:56  
Nice.

David  4:56  
--Dungeons and Dragons. Told him how not planning [Jordan laughs] sets you free.

Jordan  5:00  
You really are a jazz guy. You know?

David  5:02  
I really am. Anyway, [laughs] this series ran from December 15, 2008 to April 27, 2009. So this along with obviously cool Sharpie T is never probably going to be beaten as oldest series but I think this might be slightly newer than Double Arts.

Jordan  5:16  
Yeah, Double Arts I want to say was like 2003.

David  5:20  
Yeah. Oh wait, no.

Jordan  5:21  
I mean, B. Ichi...

David  5:21  
B. Ichi predated Bleach. So yeah, okay. 

Jordan  5:24  
I think B. Ichi and Double Arts came out around the same time.

David  5:27  
Mmmm, sure. But anyway, this is definitely in the top five oldest--

Jordan  5:30  
Yeah.

David  5:30  
--series. I think we've only read four series predating

Jordan  5:30  
Yeah--

David  5:32  
--2010.

Jordan  5:33  
--which is why the translation is so shit. 

David  5:37  
Yeah, around 2015 was when the standardized techniques for translating manga really, I would say, got established. 

Reborn Pyro  5:43  
I was really surprised that this even got translated. Like, I know it's a fan translation, I know. And then it never got translated officially but, Jesus, I am really surprised that there was a fan that wanted to translate--

Jordan  5:56  
Right? 

Reborn Pyro  5:56  
--this. Like, there is somebody who felt passion enough to put the work in to do this and I am very confused. [laughs] 

Jordan  6:03  
Pyro, the artist of, uh, Fist of the North Star has--

Reborn Pyro  6:07  
Mmhm.

Jordan  6:07  
--some manga that he put out before Fist of the North Star that has never been translated. So that has never been translated and yet, Bokke-san was translated.

David  6:17  
I wonder if the-if this is just a fan of his porn and wanted to see. I felt like this translation was weird.

Jordan  6:22  
Was bad.

David  6:23  
In that it-yes. It kind of felt like he was translated by someone who took a lot of ESL classes but never spoke to native English speakers. Like, it wasn't, like, blatantly bad English, it just read like someone who had never really actually talked in English before, if that makes sense. 

Jordan  6:37  
I think that there is a mindset among, uh, inexperienced, uh, fan translators where, like, you don't want to change anything because it ruins, like, the integrity of the manga even though if you don't change anything, it's just, like, borderline unreadable.

David  6:54  
It was a direct translation of literally what they were translating instead of them trying to make it seem like it was--

Jordan  7:00  
Yeah.

David  6:59  
--written in English. Be interesting to have, like, Stephen Paul read a chapter-you know, uh, Stephen Paul, the official translator of One Piece and be, like, here's where I can tell, like, what technique-wise they did that just made this series kinda like a shit show [inaudible]--

Jordan  7:09  
Name drop! 

David  7:11  
Yes, he's a great guest. Umm, he still comments on our Twitter sometimes--

Jordan  7:14  
Fuck yeah.

David  7:14  
--which is awesome. I tweeted about how AMC got rid of my favorite thing about their intro video. I have an AMC Movie Pass, which is pretty rad. Have you guys been to an AMC theater in the last, like, two or three years?

Reborn Pyro  7:24  
No.

David  7:24  
So AMC had, like, this generic video where they showed, like, a couple holding hands and, like, people drinking soda. And my favorite, though, is a dude with a giant bag of popcorn. He gets scared and he spills the popcorn over, like, the people sitting behind him. 

Jordan  7:36  
I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. 

David  7:38  
And they [Reborn laughs] fucking took him out. 

Jordan  7:39  
Oh! 

David  7:40  
I was so pissed when I came back and he wasn't in that--

Jordan  7:42  
Wait, so they still have the video-- 

David  7:43  
--video anymore.

Jordan  7:43  
--they just took him out? 

David  7:44  
Now he's just eating popcorn normally.

Jordan  7:46  
 That fucking sucks.

David  7:47  
I used to reenact it [Reborn laughs] every time and spill popcorn all over Rachel. She doesn't even need to wear a poncho anymore because of that. 

Jordan  7:51  
She just does it anyway for fashion. 

David  7:55  
Yes, but anyway, [laughs] this series was 18 chapters in two volumes. Let's keep powering through this series. But I know it's gonna be very hard to actually--

Jordan  8:03  
Oh, boy.

David  8:04  
--talk about it. But try as we might, we are champions of the medium. So let's get into you-Jordan's amazing I-really-can't-believe-you're-able-to-write-about-this-series-as-well-as-you-can plot summary.

Reborn Pyro  8:14  
Is it cool if I do a Kermit the Frog voice? [everyone laughs] I know it's a terrible Kermit the Frog voice but I don't want to give any respect to the series and read it seriously. [laughs]

Jordan  8:22  
As long as people can tell what you're saying. Yeah, go ahead.

David  8:26  
So I won't do my New Zealand voice is-- 

Jordan  8:28  
No, don't. Don't. No. [laughs]

David  8:29  
--what you're saying. All right. Fine.

Jordan  8:30  
Here's the plot summary as best as I can do. A little girl's mom is murdered by a bokke who are, like, shitty yokai or something, I guess. Uh, then there's a flash cut to Hinomiya Tsuru, a quiet kid with telekinesis, whose only friend is Sayu, a girl whose life he saved when she fell out of a ferris wheel 10 years ago by using psychic powers. She's got huge boobs because this is just that kind of series.

David  8:55  
She's got some real bokkes. 

Jordan  8:56  
Oh, yes, she does. He then finds out that he's the cat bokke, Nekogami, and fights off the bokke who killed the girl's mom from earlier. Turns out that they live in a weird town where the North and South districts hate each other. The South is made up almost entirely of bokke, and the North is mostly humans, I think, so the South wants to murder all the humans in the North. They then meet a bokke guy named Abel, who's a rock star until he isn't and he teaches Hino how not to suck. Popcorn, David.

David  9:27  
Turns out the little girl's actually possess by Akebako, the most powerful bokke who is a cow that causes natural disasters and the South wants her so that they can genocide the North which is-yeah, I was not expecting this to really be a Civil War metaphor. Then she unleashes her powers to save Abel who double-crosses Hino and Sayu only to then triple-cross and help them, but gets his arm cut off by his senpai. The little girl's powers are transferred to Sayu because apparently you can only use them once and she is nearby when it happened.

Jordan  9:54  
Yeah, that's-that's, uh, that's why-it's why that happened. 

David  9:56  
Popcorn, Reburn. 

Jordan  9:57  
Rebe. 

Reborn Pyro  9:58  
Hey!

David  9:59  
I just tried [laughing] to say Reborn and Pyro at the same--

Jordan  10:01  
Popcorn, Reba.

David  10:01  
--time. [Reborn Pyro laughs] Yeah, popcorn  Reba. [laughs] We have Emmy award winning singer and actress Reba on--

Jordan  10:08  
Wow!

David  10:08  
--the show. 

Reborn Pyro  10:08  
[In a Kermit the Frog voice] About now is when we find out that Hino has a creepy long-lost brother. [Jordan laughs] Sayu turns into a dragon version of Akebako and depowers all of the bokke in town when Hino asks nicely. [laughs] Also the bokke who murdered the little girl's mom was Hino's brother, surprise! But he's weak now. Oh, shit. I almost forgot, at one point they meet a pervert frog kid but he dies real fast so it doesn't even matter.

Jordan  10:31  
Exactly. Yeah. 

David  10:33  
The Kermit the Frog did-uh, [David and Reborn Pyro laughing] well, we'll talk about because we're in the character section. So diving into the characters, we've got Hino Kimooka. People think he's a loser because [Jordan laughs] he is. He has magic powers. He has vaguely described, um, ESP, not to be confused with ESPN, because there is-- actually one of the few mangas that doesn't have a basketball or baseball saga. 

Jordan  10:51  
But they do have baseball. 

Reborn Pyro  10:53  
Yeah. 

David  10:53  
When did they play baseball?

Jordan  10:54  
Towards the end. You know that one dude who's, like, drawn all blocky? And he's, like, really loud and annoying. 

David  11:00  
Oh, fuck. 

Jordan  11:00  
And he's, like, yeah--

Reborn Pyro  11:01  
Yeah.

Jordan  11:01  
--I want to be like the best baseball guy ever. And I want to--

David  11:05  
[laughs] Goddammit.

Jordan  11:05  
--like, out of nowhere for exactly, like, probably less than one chapter. He never shows up again, it doesn't matter.

Reborn Pyro  11:12  
So my assumption with that was that was before that it was decided that the show was going to be canceled. And that was maybe, like, a mascot or lovable character they introduced for merchandise.

David  11:22  
To sell merchandise.[Reborn Pyro laughs] Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  11:23  
But because there's no other character that fits that description, and then he-only shows up once and then it's immediately hamfisted. The end.

Jordan  11:31  
Weird, are you saying that there are plot threads in this manga that do not get fleshed out [laughs] or continued at all? That's very-that's a very strange thing to suggest. How dare you?

Reborn Pyro  11:39  
No, no, no, no, no, no.

David  11:41  
Yeah, but that sounds like a good thing to say for the next section. So let's get through the characters and then we can just dunk on the series for--

Jordan  11:45  
Oh, yeah.

David  11:45  
--45 minutes. But yeah, so he was a part of some vague experimentation program. He has PTSD, which is actually an element that I thought was a nugget of interesting, not that it was very well implemented. And then he's got air powers that--

Jordan  11:45  
Kind of?

David  11:57  
--eh, probably the translation was bad. I just didn't really understand how he connected having cat powers and air. I guess maybe it's the whole how cats can't die from--

Jordan  12:05  
They--

David  12:05  
--falling thing.

Jordan  12:05  
--add so much bullshit onto him. Like, so many additional powers. I don't know what the fuck to do, but, uh..

David  12:13  
He's my OP. Do not steal. OC, sorry.

Reborn Pyro  12:15  
I actually, uh, paid very close attention to this because, you know, I've never been on a show where I talked about a manga I read before so I actually, like, looked at every panel multiple times to make sure I got--

Jordan  12:26  
Wow!

Reborn Pyro  12:26  
--what was going on because sometimes in a cluttered manga with small panels like this, it's really hard to tell. I think the psychic powers part was a mistranslation, because when they talk about him having wind powers he does the thing where he opens his paw and it causes an air blast and then he closes it and it draws things towards him.

David  12:45  
He straight up, like, was bending a spoon in the flashback.

Jordan  12:48  
They imply in a training session, and other parts, that all bokke have basic telekinesis powers.

Reborn Pyro  12:55  
Okay, no, fuck this. [David and Reborn Pyro laugh]

Jordan  12:57  
Oh, wow, you couldn't follow that?

Reborn Pyro  12:59  
I tried to defend it! I tried to defend it. [laughs]

David  13:02  
I'm gonna be honest, Jordan, I really, really wanted to Reilly Method this series. And I actually did and I was, like, no, as the host I should probably actually read the manga--

Jordan  13:10  
[Groans]

David  13:10  
--so I had to go back and then reread it, because I read chapters one through 6, 10, 13, and then the last three chapters.

Jordan  13:17  
If you ignore, like, half the bullshit that people say in this series, it's-it's, uh, it's better than it would be otherwise.

David  13:24  
You heard it here first. Jordan. If you [Reborn Pyro laughs] didn't read most of the series, it's not bad. [Jordan laughs] It's like George Costanza's life where he's, like, you know what, if you took everything I ever did in my life, and you put it into a week, I would [Jordan laughs] look like I really did something with that time.

Jordan  13:37  
Exactly! I do want to say the last, uh, last couple things about Hino is he lives all alone because his dad is a deadbeat and fails to send him money. It's, like, [laughing] actually, like, really? Like kind of fucking sad.

David  13:51  
It's like Chainsaw Man. 

Jordan  13:52  
[laughing] Yeah!

Reborn Pyro  13:53  
To be fair, when I first started reading it, I was like, oh, what is this? What, is this, like, Kingdom Hearts where they're just never gonna mention his parents? Do they not exist? And then, near the end, they're like, oh, yeah, LOL he's a deadbeat dad. They patched a plot hole there, friends. [laughs]

Jordan  14:08  
Yeah, a-a huge one.

David  14:10  
Please don't compliment the series [Reborn Pyro laughs] on this podcast.

Jordan  14:12  
[Sighs] We'll get into it. Uh, I have a lot of-I have some thoughts about what they did right there. But yeah. 

David  14:18  
Jordan, Mr. Having-lots-of-thoughts, why don't you tell us about the other main character? 

Jordan  14:21  
Shijiro Sayu, she's kind of, like, his childhood friend who became friends because she was so dumb that she fell out of a ferris wheel and he saved her using telekinesis.

Reborn Pyro  14:33  
I actually have a slight problem here.

Jordan  14:35  
Yeah?

Reborn Pyro  14:36  
You called her a character. 

Jordan  14:37  
Oh, boom. [Reborn Pyro laughs] Damn!

David  14:42  
The walking fanservice plot device--

Jordan  14:45  
Oh--

David  14:45  
character.

Jordan  14:45  
--the obj-the object you mean? Yeah. 

David  14:46  
Yes, the objects. Objects. Of our section.

Jordan  14:49  
There's definitely one moment where, um, they're playing bowling in the first chapter and she bowls and the two middle aged cops are sitting behind her and one cop says to the other, ooh, did you get a look up at her-you get a look up her skirt and it's like, dude, she's 15. 

David  14:51  
Yeah, it's absolutely-it's just gross.

Reborn Pyro  15:07  
This series would lose absolutely nothing by just having the characters be like 20-year old people working at--

Jordan  15:13  
Right?

Reborn Pyro  15:13  
--an office. Even when the school gets like cut in the middle that could have just been an office building. Nothing changes in the plot by having them just be five years older. 

Jordan  15:21  
Yo, I laughed out loud when I saw the school got cut in half. Like, what the fuck? [laughs]

David  15:26  
Doesn't he say the scientist is like, oh, that was-

Jordan  15:28  
Yeah--

David  15:28  
--just a prank.

Jordan  15:28  
she said that it was just a prank, bro. [Everyone laughs]

David  15:28  
Commits war crime. Oh, it's just a prank, bro.

Jordan  15:34  
Yeah. [Reborn Pyro laughs] 

David  15:37  
Oh my god, we-oh, you know, what's a great prank though? Pyro, you should tell us about the third main character, Abe, also known as Abel, depending because it kept changing in the translation I was reading.

Reborn Pyro  15:48  
This is the only good character in the entire--

Jordan  15:50  
Mmhm, mmhm.

Reborn Pyro  15:50  
--manga. You know, he has an ice eyepatch. He has eye powers. He also has these weird tentacle powers. Like, he-he's introduced in the second chapter. And the first thing he does is freeze the room. The second thing he does is wrap the walking plot device in tentcles.

Yeah, and he also calls her baby all the time. That was a little creepy.

David  16:08  
That's because he's Ice Ice Baby. 

Reborn Pyro  16:10  
Oh, so it's a JoJo reference. 

Jordan  16:11  
That's what it is, right? Who else-who else would be Vanilla Ice, but yeah.

David  16:15  
I mean, this series had a fuck ton of JoJo references really. They straight up say this must be the work of an enemy bokke.

Jordan  16:20  
Yeah, I do also want to say about Abe or Abel or Aberu, um. When he first shows up, he's, like, a rock star. And that's his whole thing. Like, yeah, I-I have a guitar. I'm into, like, stuff from the 70s and America and I'm speaking English. And then the next time they see him, he's, like, a butler.

David  16:38  
Even, like, Lampshade has retconned. He also reminds me a lot of the character Glenn Close from Dungeons and Daddies. So shout out to a podcast that doesn't need us to shout'em out. Because they literally make, like, a-like, maybe $200,000 a month from--

Jordan  16:49  
I mentioned--

David  16:50  
[inaudible]

Jordan  16:50  
--um, that I have a podcast to a co-worker and you just like, oh, is it like Dungeons and Daddies? 

David  16:56  
Dude, that show? It's fucking slaps you should--

Jordan  16:58  
Ohhh.

David  16:59  
--watch it. 

Jordan  16:59  
Maybe I will then. But yeah, the thing is, it's like you were definitely supposed to notice, like, it didn't feel like a retcon so much as a joke that never got paid off.

Reborn Pyro  17:09  
Honestly, my theory would be that the author or the mangaka wanted to introduce another character to fulfill the butler role. [David laughs] But he also didn't have an idea. So he says, I'm just gonna bring the cool guitar playing librarian back.

Jordan  17:25  
Oh, and also he's a-he's a Revolver Ocelot because he, like, double-crossed, uh, Hino to, uh, I don't know, be a bad guy. And then it turns out that his boss was like, no, I want to kill you because you're just, like, because you fucked up once or maybe had some kind of--

David  17:43  
Yeah.

Jordan  17:43  
--little thing. So he just triple-crossed and turned on to his side or whatever. I don't fucking know.

David  17:48  
He also is kind of, like, a mentor. Like, he trains him and the next character. So I guess it's like a good segue into talking--

Jordan  17:53  
[Groans]

David  17:53  
--about--

Jordan  17:53  
[Groans louder]

David  17:55  
--Meke.

Jordan  17:55  
How are you going to have a high school manga without the fucking pervert? 

David  17:59  
German frogman because he pronounces all his S's, like Z's, which I guess is the only thing the author knew about how Germans talk which isn't even [Reborn Pyro laughs] true.

Jordan  18:06  
Dude, I didn't know what the fuck was going on there. Like, the first time he shows up he doesn't do it and then the next chapter, he's doing it constantly. 

David  18:13  
Oh, yeah.

Reborn Pyro  18:13  
I gotta be honest. With this character--

Jordan  18:15  
Please be honest. Yeah. 

Reborn Pyro  18:16  
When I first saw his frog form I was, like, oh, male version of that, uh, girl from My Hero Academia. Maybe-maybe there's a... OTP here with--

David  18:25  
[Reborn Pyro laughs] Oh, yeah, the best girl.

Jordan  18:25  
Well, it's-it's more like if you took everybody's least favorite character from My Hero Academia, Manato, and then just made him into Suya.

David  18:33  
Yeah, yeah, this character-he's-he's dumb. He dies in three chapters because this series can't keep any of these characters relevant. 

Reborn Pyro  18:39  
Listen, listen. That was the only good decision made here. 

Jordan  18:42  
I completely agree. [Reborn Pyro laughs] You know you're fucking up when you kill off a character who's, like, a kid and the main character's friend, I get happy. He's a fucking creep. Like, he's constantly creeping on Sayu. His power is he takes photos of people and then can, like, touch them through the photos. So he takes a picture of Sayu and then groped her thigh by putting his hand into the photo.

Reborn Pyro  19:04  
I really don't understand why he was like, oh, you're groping my friend. Haha. But wait, let's be friends actually. I'm not--

Jordan  19:13  
Right?

Reborn Pyro  19:13  
--here to kill you.

David  19:13  
And apparently he was the hero of the town because the main character's like, oh, I can't protect everyone like Meke did. Where apparently Meke's power of molestation was really [Reborn Pyro laughs] [inaudible] as keeping the balance and society thriving and they don't explain it all.

Jordan  19:24  
It was like a little payment for protecting her. You know, that's how that works. 

Reborn Pyro  19:27  
Yeah.

Jordan  19:27  
It's a really nice kind of relationship dynamic to set up.

Reborn Pyro  19:27  
It's so bad. 

David  19:31  
They also say he doesn't know how to use his powers because they have to do training here. So how was he already the most powerful person in the town but he didn't know how to do jack shit?

Jordan  19:39  
Yeah, he seems to understand how to use his powers more than the main character.

Reborn Pyro  19:43  
I love that he died but at the same time--

David  19:45  
Ribbit in peace.

Reborn Pyro  19:46  
--he literally had the power to take a picture of the samurai guy and just grab his arm so he doesn't swing a sword. Like, he's like, no, I must jump in front of the blade. He-he has the [Jordan laughs] only power in the series that would allow [laughing] him to win that fight. I don't-I-I-I read that [Jordan laughs] and I was like, I just don't understand-he has a camera on him. I...

David  20:00  
That connects really well to the next character. So was that Samurai guy Kokuto or is Kokuto a completely separate person? It just looked exactly the same but had giant boobs.

Reborn Pyro  20:13  
There was a comment, like, uh, when she's more transformed. It looks like a girl.

David  20:18  
So she just fights as a human for the rest of the series--

Jordan  20:20  
Yeah.

David  20:20  
--then?

Jordan  20:20  
She never transforms again.

David  20:21  
Okay, I was really kidding with you. I thought they just retconned it, like, in part six.

Jordan  20:22  
I mean, they did effectively retcon it. You mean honestly? Yeah.

David  20:27  
Yeah,--

Jordan  20:28  
Yeah.

David  20:28  
--it's fucking stupid ass-stupid ass fucking terrible writing. [Reborn Pyro laughs] This serious sucks too. [laughs] David doesn't like part six.

Jordan  20:36  
I like part six. But that was bullshit. [laughs]

David  20:40  
All right, you know what? Fuck it. Yeah, uh, I see one more character listed. That character doesn't fucking matter. Let's go into Why It Failed because we're-we just-that's effectively what every section's gonna--

Reborn Pyro  20:48  
Uh, no nononono, uh, I want to talk about the reporter lady.

David  20:51  
Ah, fine. 

Jordan  20:51  
There's not much to say about her. [laughing] But it's something. 

Reborn Pyro  20:54  
So the reporter lady gets the most plot buildup than of any other character in the show. So the main character, it kind of feels like all the fights are one-off fights. There's no real buildup. I mean, at the end of the series, fucking, the chapter before the final one it's revealed he had a brother the entire time and--

David  21:12  
Sure did. 

Reborn Pyro  21:13  
--that's why he has trauma. 

Jordan  21:14  
Oh, what the fuck was that? 

Reborn Pyro  21:15  
Yeah, it was like, oh, shit, I forgot to introduce a family. Let me give them parents and a brother real-[everyone laughs] but the reporter lady actually had a lot of buildup. So she was in the first chapter reporting on, uh, you know, the main character saving his girlfriend through psychokinetic powers, or wind powers, whatever the case is. We see her a little bit later. She's trying to figure out what's going on. She sees, like, three people get murdered in the middle of the street. I think we see her two more times before she dies. It's weird because it's like the scenes become slice of life or--

Jordan  21:48  
Does she die?

Reborn Pyro  21:48  
Yeah, so it becomes slice of life. The main character has a job now. And he's moving boxes and she pushes boxes on top of him and she records it and then she kind of kidnaps him. She shows him a video and then sh-he gets in her van for some reason. They don't really say where they're going. And then they get attacked and the main character runs away from the van and she's sitting next to the van and then the van explodes. They gave this plotline more build up than literally anything in the series just [laughing] for her to get blown up. 

Jordan  22:20  
I didn't remember that she died. She's just a character who really is a walking plot device more so than anything else. Because it's like if the writer needs to justify something, like, I feel, like, he was just like, what character can I have come back again? Oh, I know. I'll have this adult lady stalk this 15-year old boy for like three months straight.

Reborn Pyro  22:39  
That's the thing. I-I-[sighs] I have issues calling her a device because you know, she forces them to get in the van. But there's no-

David  22:47  
She's just forcing [Jordan laughs] kids in a van. 

Reborn Pyro  22:49  
She shows them a video. Next panel they're in a van together. Like, there's no plot. There's no plot devices just oh, there's suddenly an event [Jordan laughs]. Where are they going? I don't fucking know. The van gets attacked anyway. Does it explain anything? No, she was just there.

Jordan  23:02  
Well, she's also the one who points out the main character has a brother.

Reborn Pyro  23:06  
Oh, was that[laughing] her character's only purpose?

Jordan  23:13  
Yeah.

David  23:12  
She was like, you see that part that's ripped out where it's you and your dad and someone [Jordan laughs] else? That's not your mom bitch. Psych! 

Jordan  23:18  
You don't have a--

David  23:19  
You have a brother!

Jordan  23:19  
--mom. 

David  23:20  
Yeah, you have two dads [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh] and one of them is your brother. [laughs] Imagine if that was actually the censorship, and it really was he had two dads and this is, like, the most LGBT-friendly series. 

Jordan  23:30  
That would track with Shonen Jump.

David  23:31  
In 2008, that would have been really progressive to have a character with two dads in Shonen Jump. [Jordan laughs] 

Jordan  23:35  
[Still laughing] One of them being a child.

David  23:37  
That's my official headcanon is that character is actually his dad. 

Reborn Pyro  23:40  
The most progressive series that came out in 2008 was Speed Grapher dab dab dab. 

David  23:45  
I have no idea what that is.

Reborn Pyro  23:46  
We're gonna go off on a tangent. I apologize. So apparently there's these angels that get people fetish superpowers because of a virus so basically whatever your fetish is your superpowers. Main character gets camera. He takes picture, blows things up because he has a fetish for war--

Jordan  23:58  
What?

Reborn Pyro  23:58  
--photos. It sounds like a ridiculous premise. I got together with friends to watch it as a joke. Like, we were gonna laugh at it from just the premise. And then it was, like, one of the best shows I've ever seen. There are, like, openly gay characters or openly trans characters or openly cross dressers.

David  24:12  
That's pretty cool. It's, like, how Ouran High School Host Club just randomly has a non-binary character as their main protagonist.

Jordan  24:18  
Anyway. Yeah, let's, uh, let's get-let's move on to, uh, talking more about why this series, fucking, is terrible. [laughs]

David  24:25  
Yes. Reborn Pyro, why don't you do the honor of starting this conversation telling us what was something that really stood out to you as to why you didn't like the series? Or sorry, let me rephrase that. That was [Jordan laughs] a leading question, Your Honor. Pyro, why don't you tell me something that you didn't like about the series that really stood out to you.

Reborn Pyro  24:40  
The other thing, by far I could list off other things but, Jesus Christ, you know if your show can have a better ending by just being an isekai and, by virtue [Jordan laughs] of the main character going back home, then you have fucked up. You have done something horrendous. Uh, this show... the ending, right? So basically, all the bokke-all the people with superpowers--

Jordan  25:01  
All the X-Men. 

Reborn Pyro  25:02  
--yes, all the X-Men are in one town together. There's a festival. All the humans get turned into cards. All the bokkes start getting turned into cards except one, the main character, and then *spoiler alerts* main character's brother. He kills all the bad guys, he's like, haha I betrayed them to save you, fuck you.

Jordan  25:19  
The main character's brother who was just introduced, like, uh, pre-i-like, literally the-the last chapter and then it's a huge reveal that he was the original evil, bad guy who killed the-the little girl's mom in chapter one. Yeah, it was him.

Reborn Pyro  25:33  
Yeah. I feel like they added a panel. Like, they made it look like it was a flashback to the first chapter but I don't think that was a panel in the first chapter. Or it showed him going, oh, I didn't expect to see you here but he never said that in the [Jordan laughs] first part. [laughing] They really retconned the dialogue.

David  25:52  
They're retconning events some three months ago in the manga. 

Reborn Pyro  25:54  
Yeah. 

David  25:55  
Oda, this was not.

Reborn Pyro  25:56  
But okay. So, it was so bad because he-all the bad guys--

Jordan  26:00  
Mmhm.

Reborn Pyro  26:00  
--are dead. The main character walks up to this MacGuffin. Eh, she can revive everybody he's like, haha turn all the bokke and the humans. 

Jordan  26:10  
He does the House of M, uh, Scarlet Witch, no more mutants thing.

David  26:14  
No, Jordan. It's the ending of Moriking. 

Jordan  26:16  
That is mean to Moriking.

David  26:17  
I know. 

Reborn Pyro  26:18  
All the bokke are already dead except for him at that point. So that means all the bokke are revived and then turned into humans. Ye-so all these mass murdering bokke because they said, like, 95% of all bokke were, uh, mass murderers, right? They-they were from the south. They were the bad guys. They wanted racial purity--

Jordan  26:35  
They literally say racial purity, which blew my mind when I read that, like, what? The bokke are a race?!

David  26:41  
That was insane.

Reborn Pyro  26:42  
So all of a sudden, all these mass murders are just brought back to life. And it's like, LOL, okay? Now if they would have followed this by, you know, sh-showing a newscast by saying arrests have been made, to be different, but they showed a newscast of the news reporter saying, a different one by the way, not the one that's, uh.

Jordan  26:58  
Mmhm.

Reborn Pyro  26:58  
Good thing bokke aren't real, am I right? [Jordan laughs] Who knows how all this crazy stuff-people died! Mass murdering people are-he just lets them get up and say, oh, well, you don't have superpowers now. So hi. Guess who's the real loser.

Jordan  27:12  
You brought up something that I really, really have to touch upon. So the way they set it up is there's the North and the South, and the South has a bunch of bokke. L-like, the South has 95% of the bokke and the North has 5%. Like, that's the exact numbers they give. Now, here's the thing, bokke are still not very well known. And the North, like, people don't really know who they are. My question is, how the fuck do they not know? I-it seems like the South has already killed all the humans that are in there. And it's just bokke? So--

David  27:38  
Yeah.

Jordan  27:38  
--there was a huge genocide that went on in the South, which is what the series tells us happened. Nobody in the North knows that they even exist. How did you miss this? This just started happening now?

Reborn Pyro  27:50  
There's so many implications, like I said earlier, you know, all these mass murderers are just allowed to walk, you know? He doesn't stop them when they turn human. Then he's just like, oh, you're human now, what are you gonna do? And just like with what you just said, you know, why aren't people noticing? I feel like everyone's just really stupid in this manga.

Jordan  28:08  
It's really stupid. Shit just happens. Uh, th-there's one moment where Sayu is holding a scroll that apparently has very important information that would teach Hino how to use his-his, uh, bokke powers. By the way, he is a nekogami which is like a sexy cat lady. And she drops--

David  28:08  
Yeah.

Jordan  28:11  
--the scroll which causes her to somehow fall through the floor.

David  28:31  
Well they said it was, like, aw, shitty flooring so, like...

Jordan  28:33  
Whoa! Well, okay. 

Reborn Pyro  28:35  
Yeah.

David  28:35  
Let's just hang out in the, like, the worst, like, maintained part of the house.

Jordan  28:38  
Yeah, whatever and, like, the scroll is apparently so heavy that just falling on it makes her crash through the fucking floor. And by the way, Hino reaches out to grab her-grab-pulls her skirt off [laughs] in the process.

David  28:50  
You know what would've made that scene actually worth it is if she fell but then she got stuck because like her boobs are so big.

Jordan  28:55  
That would have made it worth it. [laughing] David, I agree. [Reborn Pyro laughs]

David  28:57  
Yeah. That would have made the entire having giant boobs actually have a purpose. That was the only thing I know would've what I would have done differently for this series.

Jordan  29:06  
You know what? If that happened I would have given this [laughing] series more credit actually.

David  29:11  
I would have legitimately thought this series was being shitty--

Jordan  29:13  
Yeah.

David  29:13  
--on purpose if that had happened. [Jordan and David laugh] Yeah. So, though-one thing I just want to talk about in terms of something I really hated was completely unrelated to anything that has been talked about before is the police element. Pretty--

Jordan  29:16  
Oh.

David  29:16  
--much had zero purpose. I originally added, like, the commissioner, and I actually thought that was, like, one of the cooler parts of this series and they're like, let's make them relevant for two chapters and pretend there isn't this really interesting supernatural police force that's in the background doing absolutely nothing relevant.

Jordan  29:36  
Please just talk about how in the-the first murder that occurs of-a woman is cut in half. And we mentioned on the chibi, it's really funny how you see this woman cut in half and then we're like, hmm, she died from being cut in half and blood loss but they refer to it later in the series and they call it the Cut in Half Murder. [laughs] What? It's a-a little-little specific. You don't use her name, you don't like, uh, say, oh the murder that happened the other day. No, it's the Cut in Half Murder. 

David  30:04  
That's probably a bad translation [laughing] issue--

Jordan  30:06  
Yeah--

David  30:06  
--let's be fair.

Jordan  30:07  
--but even in Japanese, like, I'm assuming they're using some other word for that. Like, some word that implies cut in half which is still, like, come on, man. Like, if someone gets shot in the head, do you go around and be like, he got the Gunshot Murder?

Reborn Pyro  30:19  
Okay, would you have liked it better if they called it the Hash Slinging Slasher--

Jordan  30:23  
Yeah. 

Reborn Pyro  30:24  
--murder? [Laughs]

David  30:24  
Yeah. Reborn, I feel like you had some other thoughts that you wanted to talk about as well. I just want to make sure I got a word in. 

Reborn Pyro  30:31  
I believe it's chapter 15 the time skip happened. [David laughs] And then--

David  30:34  
Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  30:33  
--and the series ends on chapter 18. So--

David  30:34  
Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  30:35  
--chapter 16 is the weird slice of life one. We talked about the third layer there's the baseball guy. It really feels like after this chapter is when the, uh, mangaka got the memo that the series was being cancelled because--

David  30:50  
Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  30:50  
--he goes from casual slice of life to everyone is suddenly in town for a festival, and also the big bad guy had a plan all along [Jordan laughs] and also all this plot devices and also a brother exists and-it's just like, okay, so... 

Jordan  31:06  
It's enough plot for, like, 20 chapters.

David  31:10  
Yeah, and just for the record, by the way, so usually they know when they have three chapters left because that's, I think, how it works is Shonen Jump just says finish it in three chapters and then you're done.

Reborn Pyro  31:18  
If it was four chapters, then they could have not had a time skip and it just ended there and that would have been a much better ending. 

Jordan  31:27  
This series... the big problem with it is, and we bring this up on a lot of other series, but oh my god, it's so much worse here. There's no focus. Like, the broad overarcing plot is the South is trying to get access to Akebako which is, uh, eh, a cow that could destroy everything, I guess. And they introduce Akebako and then immediately say, ope, it's over. Akebako left so that's-that's dissipate-we-we get exactly one chapter where there's tension where it's like, okay, we have to protect this little girl because she has Akebako, and then, no, she doesn't have it anymore, it's gone.

David  32:01  
Yep, it's-eh, [Jordan laughs]-we solved it. I'm actually, though, impressed though how little happens and everything despite there being mountains of text. Like that was probably the most painful thing was s-so many panels, so much text, holy shit. I don't understand how they could say so much or so little with so many words.

Jordan  32:15  
I would argue that actually, David, a lot happens. It's just that none of it matters.

David  32:20  
You know what you're right. 

Reborn Pyro  32:21  
I have read enough Hunter x Hunter where I didn't even notice it was a lot of [David and Jordan laugh] words. [laughs]

Jordan  32:28  
You should read Build King after this.

David  32:30  
Oh, god, Build King? And then I feel like we really dunked on this long-the character section so I-I don't have anything I really, really feel pressed about that I feel like we didn't talk about. Does anyone have anything they wanna talk about? Or are you guys cool if we actually might--

Jordan  32:43  
I mean--

David  32:44  
--make it to the positives?

Jordan  32:44  
--there's so much bad shit. Like, I could sit here and talk forever about little awful things that happen. Little really weird shit. So I'm-I'm fine with moving on to the What It Did Well section. We can get that out of the way. 

Reborn Pyro  32:51  
It is very tiny. [laughs]

David  32:58  
It's almost overwhelming the sheer amount of terrible things about this series. So just for the sake of making sure this episode isn't two hours long, let's just go into the positives. So Jordan, as by far the most positive person in this chat, why don't you tell us what were some things that you actually did enjoy about this series?

Jordan  33:12  
Yeah, I thought that some of the monster designs looked really cool. Some of them were genuinely, like, kind of creepy-looking, kind of interesting. Like, uh, when Akebako turns into, like, this legitimately kind of creepy, like, cow-dragon. I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. I'm into that. I mean, the thing is, it's like the plot's so hard to follow that it kind of ruins it. Like, you don't really, uh, get, like, the positives, like, that many positives for it. But still... I didn't hate Hino as a character. He was just kind of nothing, I guess.

David  33:44  
There was some, like, two full panel spreads, I thought were actually really cool. Like, when they see the, uh, bokke town or city, whatever, district for the first time--

Jordan  33:52  
Yeah.

David  33:52  
--that art was really cool. One thing that stood out to me was actually the series, I'm going to guess by accident, made everything actually make sense where when they're on the rooftop and having the rooftop fight and how the main characters get saved by Vanilla Ice and the hammer guy. And they came out of nowhere, but actually, if you look at the pieces of that situation, it perfectly made sense because they had just been doing training that, um, the ice guy had made them do. So he knew where they were, and there was a giant explosion. And so it's really not that unreasonable for the ice guy to say, there was an explosion right by where he was training. Something is probably going on. So I was like, you actually earn this kind of pseudo Deus Ex Machina, which is definitely huge pain in the ass when characters show up out of nowhere just because it's very easy writing and it looks cool.

Jordan  34:33  
This series does this a couple times where it does something and you expect it to be really stupid. And then it isn't as stupid as you thought it was. 

David  34:40  
Yeah.

Jordan  34:40  
Like, so a little girl falls into a coma and she is not responding to anybody for, like, uh, like, a m-months or some shit. And then they just randomly get a call where it's like, oh, the little girl woke up and she's accepting visitors and I'm just thinking, that's fucking stupid. And then it turns out that, uh, actually what happened was the, uh, police detective or whatever was threatened into making that call. So actually, it was like, okay, so that-that was supposed to be weird. All right, whatever. [David laughs] I'll give you that. 

David  35:04  
Yeah.

Jordan  35:05  
[Groans]

David  35:06  
Reborn, how about you? Was-what were some things that stood out to you as positives?

Reborn Pyro  35:09  
So the hideaway world is cool. So i-it's a trope in a lot of manga, a lot of series, even comic books, for the protagonists to have an escape from their own world. And nine times out of 10 the escape is, you know, it's pristine. It looks beautiful. I-it's purposely made to be [indecipherable]. But in this show, the hideaway world is a shithole, which I really--

Jordan  35:32  
Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  35:32  
--love. [laughs]

Jordan  35:32  
It looked very cool. 

Reborn Pyro  35:34  
We mentioned earlier one of the girls just falls through the floor and one of the characters is like, hey, yeah, the floor is rotted, be careful. You know--

David  35:41  
Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  35:41  
--what? I like that. I-I like that a lot. I like the idea of the hideaway world being like well, we can't get a carpenter in here {Jordan laughs] to fix this, I mean... [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  35:49  
Yeah, in this economy? 

Jordan  35:51  
Oh, we gotta have the magic, uh, carpentry bokke. Oh, well, wait carpentry, we'll just get a guide from Build King. [laughs]

David  35:58  
Hey, we saw the talking house. So clearly, I-as I posted in the discord. They're in the same cinematic--

Jordan  36:02  
Yeah, yeah.

David  36:02  
--universe.

Jordan  36:02  
There were things in the series that made me laugh. And to this day, or-or to this moment, I don't know which ones were intentional and which ones were unintentional. Like, when they cut the school in half. They have that guy saying it's just a prank. And it's like, well, I don't, uh, this is all really funny? But I don't know which parts are supposed to be funny and which parts are not.

David  36:23  
Yeah. I will say that the art does improve.

Jordan  36:26  
Yes. 

David  36:26  
And you can actually-looking at his porn now, which-yeah, I really didn't think I'd ever say that on the show, yeah, looking at his porn, it's actually quite well drawn. So the guy clearly puts a lot of effort into improving his art.

Reborn Pyro  36:34  
Um, um, um... 

Jordan  36:36  
You already talked about how much you love the V-tube. This artist, you can tell he's good at, like, splash pages. If you tell him, hey, draw, like, one image disconnected from any kind of plot? Yeah, he can do it, he do it pretty damn well. When you try and ask him to connect it to something though? No, no. Doesn't work.

David  36:51  
It's like Steve Ditko, where I think it was, like, he drew all the art and then a writer created the-and then someone wrote the dialogue after Steve Ditko made [Jordan laughs] art for Spider-Man. That actually happened in the Doom comic too, where they-they made the art first. And then the guy had to create dialogue to explain everything. And that's why the dialogue makes, like, no sense. 

Jordan  37:06  
But it's the best dialogue ever. You have huge guts! 

David  37:09  
Blood and gore! 

Jordan  37:11  
Rip and tear! 

David  37:12  
What a great series. 

Jordan  37:13  
Yeah.

David  37:13  
Alright, so, uh, a Doom crossover actually is a really cool area where the series could have gone in that it's not. It would just have the Doom guy killing everyone--

Jordan  37:20  
Yes.

David  37:20  
--which would have been a great ending. But let's actually get into Where It Could Have Gone. As I alluded to in the negatives, I think the police helmet was really cool. Like, it would be cool to have like a supernatural detective agency where they're like friends with some of the spirits and--

Reborn Pyro  37:32  
Yeah.

David  37:32  
--stuff. You know, like, maybe a ghost detective as-that's a real deep cut reference for Jordan. Maybe, like, i tell c, but about, like, supernatural murders. Now that's a crossover. [laughs] 

Jordan  37:32  
[laughing] Oh God.

David  37:43  
Bokke-san and i tell c, yeah. And that I think really would have added a structure because this series, just-it didn't even have a good foundation. You-you could not repair this series and have it be remotely anything like what it currently is.

Reborn Pyro  37:54  
I disagree with you, actually. 

Jordan  37:56  
Oh yeah?

Reborn Pyro  37:57  
I mentioned this before. But if this was an isekai, and it's like, oh, he's in another world, okay. You suddenly don't have to make dedicate pages to explaining what happened to his family. He's just in another world. I think that would have added a lot to it. Like, instead of being in the real world, you know, where there's issues of how do these people not know about these, uh, you know, yokai--

Jordan  38:08  
I get what you mean, yeah. 

Reborn Pyro  38:20  
And it would also solve the ending. Like, he could just be like, alright, later I'm out and [Jordan laughs] go home. If this was an isekai, it wouldn't have been good, but it would have been a lot better.

Jordan  38:29  
I could see that. The main issue here is this shit needed to be simplified. There is too much shit going on. Nothing is properly laid out. So instead--

Reborn Pyro  38:38  
Yeah.

Jordan  38:38  
--of like understanding and taking the time to, like, absorb what's happening, you're just immediately introduced to new shit. Like, they're still introducing new powers for bokke. Okay, whatever the fuck towards the very end of the fucking series, and it's just like, you barely laid out what they could do with just what you have laid out so far, and you're still adding shit? Like, with, like, the evil brother. You already introduced a deadbeat dad, like, a shitty deadbeat dad, you didn't--

David  38:38  
Yeah. 

Jordan  38:38  
--have to introduce a brother. You could have just played up the deadbeat dad, you could have had him be the bad guy. But now you have two family members that we don't know shit about.

David  39:14  
And the dad never matters.

Jordan  39:15  
He doesn't matter at all! It's like the Iron Knight dad.

David  39:18  
Oh God.

Reborn Pyro  39:19  
They had to explain though why the main character was working as a 15-year old. So they had to make his dad deadbeat. So then he'd get a job. So then the reporter could knock over boxes. So then the reporter could also film him using psychic powers so they could teleport the van. You see what the [Jordan laughs] author really wanted to do here was teleport him into a van with the reporter and this was how they did it. 

Jordan  39:39  
Yeah.

Reborn Pyro  39:40  
You know, i-it's a little insane, but you know, the methodology makes sense. [laughs]

Jordan  39:44  
Well, I don't know that I'd say the methodology makes [laughing] sense. [Reborn Pyro laughs]

Reborn Pyro  39:50  
No, the series is trash. Entirely sarcasm.

Jordan  39:52  
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh] Like, for instance, the fact that the little girl was Akebako, they could have had a thing where, like, all the good guys have to, like, protect her or something. And there's, like, tension because like, oh my God, when are the bad guys gonna show up and take her or whatever, but no, they resolve it immediately. It just isn't something you have to worry about. Don't worry about it.

David  40:13  
Uh. [laughs] My God. Oh, um, one other idea, I appreciate that they actually explicitly say that bokke and ya-uh, yokai are different things. And I think it would have been cool to actually show the yokai. And instead of having this North-South shit, they could have had bokke [Reborn Pyro laughs] versus yokai--

Reborn Pyro  40:30  
Yeah.

David  40:30  
--as, like, the actual war, which I think would have been--

Jordan  40:32  
Yeah.

David  40:32  
--a lot more interesting and then helped explain because the majority of the time we're reading this series, I was just like, why are these not called yokai? Because they seem to be almost the same. 

Reborn Pyro  40:39  
Yeah.

Jordan  40:40  
And yeah, as-as you pointed out on the chibi, I tried finding bolkke-bokke because the way they describe it, it seems like it must be something existing in Japanese culture. I can't find a single fucking thing about'em.

David  40:51  
I think Tucker said it's a Chinese word. 

Jordan  40:52  
Oh.

David  40:54  
Double-checking Tucker's notes. It seems to originate from a Chinese word for, like, a tattoo punishment, which makes sense because you remember he gets that tattoo on his hand, which never matters after that? 

Reborn Pyro  41:02  
Oh, yeah. 

David  41:04  
It seems like the offer kind of came up with this idea. But again, it doesn't make sense why he didn't just make it yokai.

Jordan  41:08  
Exactly! Yeah, if you did a--

Reborn Pyro  41:08  
Yeah.

Jordan  41:09  
--find and replace on this entire series with bokke for yo-with bokke for yokai, it does not make the series worse at all, and makes it just slightly better, just very slightly better.

David  41:20  
Makes it slightly easier to understand the concept because now he's not explaining something [inaudible].

Jordan  41:24  
Yeah, and at the very least, it's not a word that is confusing to the reader, you know?

David  41:29  
I had one last misc-uh, thought of [indecipherable]. I think the PTSD element could have been cool, like, to show him, like, confusing, like, when she holds up the coin in the second chapter. And he gets flashbacks to how his, like, training with the scientist and that, like, you know, activates something in him. That's a cool idea. Like, I think we've talked about before that was why I liked some parts of Hell Warden is this whole psychological PTSD. There are repercussions for the violence. You know, bringing children into these things that are lost where it's just kind of ignored like it was the main plot of the last season of Steven Universe. But I don't trust this author to have done a very good job of handling that topic well, but it is still an idea that he put in and then he just-maybe he realized, hey, this isn't a topic I'm going to be good at talking about. Or maybe the editor's like, don't talk about PTSD in a magazine for 12 year olds, but they dropped it pretty--

Jordan  42:09  
Yeah. 

David  42:09  
--fast.

Jordan  42:09  
So-so he was just like, well, I won't do it. I already set it up. But, uh, let's not do it. [David laughs] Like everything else that he does in this fucking [laughing] series. Like, I don't even think an editor told him. I think he forgot.

David  42:20  
Well, power to him--

Nah.

--because it was not a good idea. [laughing] Okay, speaking though, of good ideas though, do you guys want to go to Miscellaneous Thoughts? 

Jordan  42:27  
Oh, yeah, I got a big one that I need to talk about. 

David  42:29  
Jordan, I know you are very excited about one of your miscellaneous thoughts so Reborn, [Reborn Pyro laughs] why don't you start things off? Hell yeah.

Jordan  42:36  
Fuck you.

David  42:36  
Uh, [David and Reborn Pyro laugh] Jordan, go for it.

Jordan  42:39  
There's like a weird game show that occurs at some point after, uh, Hino save Sayu. There is a-a little bit of backstory that this weird, uh, scientist from a paranormal agency who seems to be, like, a James Randi-type whose point is to, like, disprove psychic powers except when it isn't or something. They put Hino on TV and broadcast him all throughout Japan, it-I-I-I assume, where they just have him struggling horribly to try and bend a spoon on TV. Like, he can't do it. And the whole time there is, like, this creepy, tiny, old man with no nose who's just like, ah, he's a faker! This little kid is a fucking fake. Everybody laughs at the little kid who's a fucking liar on TV and not a real hero. It's one of the most [laughing] insane things I've read [Reborn Pyro laughs] in a manga. It just completely [laughing] confused the shit out of me, but I kinda loved it for how insane it was. 

David  43:35  
Yeah, yeah. [laughing] This series is-is fucking nuts.

Reborn Pyro  43:38  
Oh my God, my mind has been blown.

Jordan  43:39  
What happened? 

Reborn Pyro  43:41  
That's also another thing that Mob Psycho touched on.

David  43:44  
You guys haven't even talked about Mob Psycho because we talked about our conversation in the chat. But you guys actually haven't mentioned that at all.

Reborn Pyro  43:49  
Mob Psycho hits on every single plot point this show does from the game show thing to the older brother issue to the, uh, socially awkward kid having superpowers. The only thing it doesn't have...

Jordan  44:04  
Is terribleness? 

Reborn Pyro  44:05  
But like every other thing, Mob Psycho hits in strides that this series just completely fails at.

Jordan  44:12  
The thing is, this series is one of the worst manga I've ever read. And, uh, Mob Psycho was straight up one of the best anime I've ever seen in my life. So.

Reborn Pyro  44:20  
If you boil them down, there's a lot of plot points that are the same and one excels, the other drops the ball completely. 

Jordan  44:26  
Yeah. ONE or Onei or however you say it, is a very good writer, whereas this guy is very much not. So. [laughs]

Reborn Pyro  44:34  
I mean, his more recent work has ver-i-I read it for the plot, I promise. [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  44:40  
The plot. The plot. Big plot.

Jordan  44:43  
His characters have, like, two very large plots, don't they? [laughs]

Reborn Pyro  44:47  
Other than that, the only thing I wanted to mention is, uh, [sighs] with the folklore of the show not pulling directly from Japanese mythology, I-I-I'm a little weirded out by that. Like, i-it--

David  44:57  
Yeah. 

Reborn Pyro  44:57  
--felt like a lot of these concepts could have just been pulled from Japanese mythology. I-I feel like the author might be a Westaboo because, you know, the North-South racial purity, it feels like it's referring to something in the real world and I'm just a little confused. [laughs]

Jordan  45:14  
Hey, I'll help you out a little bit. 90% of the, uh, of manga that we've read, I've noticed has weirdly been like a World War II metaphor.

David  45:22  
Yeah, like [laughing] Red Sprite, which is a metaphor for the creation of--

Jordan  45:25  
Yeah.

David  45:25  
--Israel.

Jordan  45:25  
That was crazy. But when Akebako first uses her powers it creates a mushroom cloud. Hmm. 

David  45:33  
Whoa-- 

Jordan  45:33  
Yeah--

David  45:33  
--crazy. 

Jordan  45:33  
--there's a mention that Akebako, last time it activated, killed 6 million people. And, uh, the bad--

David  45:39  
Yeah.

Jordan  45:39  
--guys want racial purity. So there is absolutely some kind of-there might be some kind of metaphor going on. I don't think it's Civil War, but-it-I think it's something.

Ah, [Jordan laughs] yeah, no, it's, uh...

Oh, boy. 

Reborn Pyro  45:53  
That reference there makes the ending even worse because they remove the bokke so there is racial purity and I-I don't like that in the ending.

Yeah! [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  46:06  
There's a lot of problematic things about--

Reborn Pyro  46:08  
Yeah.

David  46:08  
--this series. 

Reborn Pyro  46:09  
Jon Tron would love it though.

Jordan  46:10  
Jon Tron would love this series a lot. Yeah. [David and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  46:13  
I think we've talked about Jon Tron quite enough for someone who's canceled. We're gonna get flagged on YouTube if [Reborn Pyro laughs] we'd mentioned him too many times.

Reborn Pyro  46:14  
[indecipherable]

Jordan  46:20  
No such thing as bad publicity, David.

David  46:24  
[laughing] What else? Miscellaneous Thoughts, oh, when they said he turned into a cat god I just had [Reborn Pyro laughs] rap god in my head and it was like, oh, that would have been a good cover.

Reborn Pyro  46:31  
I've turned into a cat got caught, got... [David and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  46:35  
I got my wind powers, spin powers. [Jordan laughs]

Reborn Pyro  46:38  
All the front people in the back, not back not...

Jordan  46:41  
What if there was a series where somebody turned into the, uh, the yokai of rap? 

Reborn Pyro  46:46  
Oh no. Oh no. Oh [Jordan laughs] no. 

Jordan  46:49  
It's just Parappa the Rapper.

David  46:51  
Oh! What if it was instead of North-South, it's East Coast-West Coast--

Jordan  46:54  
Yeah.

David  46:54  
--fight? 

Jordan  46:55  
Oh God. 

David  46:56  
All [indecipherable] by rapping

Jordan  46:58  
There should be an anime like that.

Reborn Pyro  47:00  
Listen. No, no, no, no, no, no. 

Jordan  47:01  
Not by this guy. 

Reborn Pyro  47:03  
The bad part would be if their music was so good that they sold an album and then the album retro actively made [Jordan laughs] the manga good.

David  47:11  
You mean like how the porn retro actively made the series good?

Reborn Pyro  47:13  
Yes! Yes! Yes! [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  47:16  
All right, you know, fuck it. [Reborn Pyro laughing] Umm, I don't even-nothing fucking matters anymore. I know, let's just-let's just-let's just wrap this up early and we can all look at his porn together in the Discord. [everyone laughs] But not actually-[laughing] God. No. All right, I don't even care about any of my other notes. I just don't want to talk about this series anymore. I want to talk about something I actually like. So, are you guys cool if--

Jordan  47:35  
Yeah.

David  47:35  
--we go to the Final Verdicts? 

Reborn Pyro  47:36  
Yeah! 

David  47:37  
I'm going to start by reading two six word summaries that were submitted by people. First one is by TWolfwood nigh unreadable, not scary, extremely forgettable, and, by Tucker, too bad to be kitty litter. So as always, I appreciate you guys reading it. Obviously I could see why we had a lot less than Candy Flurry because a lot of people probably read the first chapter and were--

Jordan  47:55  
Yeah.

David  47:55  
--like nope, I'm out. So I appreciate you two though. Still submitting [laughing] some six word summaries. Umm, fight on, you brave soldiers, in the terrible manga reading--

Jordan  47:57  
I--

David  47:57  
--community.

Jordan  48:04  
support you, umm, comrade.

David  48:06  
And then, Jordan, what was your six word summary?

Jordan  48:08  
Everything happens so much. Horse ebooks.

David  48:11  
[laughing] You know they actually turned out that was a person writing those tweets. 

Jordan  48:15  
Yeah, it was an ARG.

David  48:16  
Ahhh, sucks. 

Jordan  48:18  
I know. 

David  48:19  
Alright, Reborn, how about you? 

Reborn Pyro  48:20  
Mob Psycho 100 if not good.

Jordan  48:22  
Yeah, yeah.

David  48:23  
I think I heard some background noise. Do you mind saying that again? 

Reborn Pyro  48:25  
Oh, sorry. Mob Psycho 100 if not good. My chair is just squeaky.

Jordan  48:29  
Don't know anything about that. That's so strange.

David  48:32  
[Reborn Pyro laughs] Yeah, Jordan, the King of Having [indecipherable] Can you resay that because you fucked with your chair. 

Jordan  48:35  
I got a different chair now. [Reborn Pyro laughs] So it's fine.

David  48:37  
[Jordan laughs] There you go, bud. That was pretty good. I-I enjoyed that. Mine was actually talking about another series [indecipherable] Bokke-man-go read something else. [Jordan and Reborn Psycho cheer]

Reborn Pyro  48:47  
[laughs] Pokeman go read Mob Psycho.

David  48:54  
Yeah. [laughs] Oh man, the, uh, the Dungeons and Daddies people did a pokemon go to the polls where they played this like president simulator game where it's the president and then the art people are his cabinet. And they have to convince him and it was all Pokemon [Jordan laughs] related issues. And they, like, the Secretary of Defense is like, oh, we should have them join the military. [laughs] Be like [Jordan laughs] your new WMD and shit.

Jordan  49:13  
So is-is that your recommendation? 

David  49:15  
No. I really, really liked Dungeons and Daddies.

Jordan  49:17  
Okay, you-you convinced me. I will-I will listen to Dungeons and Daddies. 

David  49:20  
Jordan, let me just tell you this. So Beth May plays a mildly autistic father--

Jordan  49:20  
Mmhm.

David  49:24  
--named Ron Stamp. So they have a cell phone in the Forgotten Realms because it's, like, a plot, he goes, I'm going to call my friend, Beth [Jordan laughs] May, to ask for advice about how to handle the situation. And so he calls Beth May, and the DM has to play Beth May talking to Beth [Jordan laughs] May playing her character. 

Jordan  49:41  
That's pretty good. 

David  49:42  
And I was like, this is the best fucking [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh] podcast I've ever listened to my entire life. Yeah, I'll just segue with that so, I thought this was 100% Certified Flop. Go check out Dandadan. We are actually going to be doing a Patreon special about--

Jordan  49:56  
Oh yeah.

David  49:57  
--it. Thanks to everyone. It beat out two other series so. Really fun series. I got Jordan on it so I'm excited. It's gonna be a lot of fun to talk about. I think probably the manga that has done the best job of making testicles plot relevant.

Jordan  50:09  
Next to Gurren Lagann, maybe. 

David  50:11  
And probably the best drawn eyebrows in the Shonen [Jordan mumbles] Jump world.

Jordan  50:15  
Tough competition, but they're pretty good.

Reborn Pyro  50:18  
I do disagree with something you said here

Jordan  50:20  
Yeah?

Reborn Pyro  50:21  
I cannot believe that this is a Certified Flop. I have seen the, uh, V-tuber model and watched the stream so, I think this is a 10 out of 10. Deserves a writing award. There's also [Jordan laughs] gold star award for writing...

David  50:34  
[David and Jordan laughing] Okay, all right, Reborn. So, though, wha-wh-what would you have said yesterday?

Reborn Pyro  50:41  
Zero out of 10. Burn it. Burn every single --

Jordan  50:44  
Yeah--

Reborn Pyro  50:44  
--copy. [laughs]

Jordan  50:44  
Yeah, yeah. [mumbling] That's what I thought.

David  50:46  
Let me see if that-I get this straight. Yours would be Certified Flop, look at his porn instead. Or--

Jordan  50:51  
Yeah, yeah 

David  50:51  
--V-tuber account.

Jordan  50:51  
Yeah.

David  50:52  
Is [Jordan laughs] your recommendation. 

Reborn Pyro  50:53  
Ah, but, well-well, okay, do you want to watch something? Speed grapher an anime original. It's insanely good. It doesn't aim for the same audience today. It's a seinin but it's a solid nine out of 10. I-I highly recommend it. Mob Psycho if you want to read something. Most people prefer the anime. The anime is also a 10 out of 10. But the manga is still really, really good.

Jordan  51:13  
Mmm.

David  51:14  
Sounds good. Jordan, how about you? What are your thoughts? And what would you recommend if you didn't think this... [laughs] Yeah, this is a flop. What do you just... [laughing]

Jordan  51:20  
Oh yeah. This is-this is obviously a Certified Flop. I'm going to recommend something that is about as easy to follow as this series. Uhh, are you guys familiar with, uh, Alejandro Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain? 

David  51:30  
No.

Jordan  51:30  
Holy Mountain is kind of the ultimate stoner movie. [David laughs] It's meant to make you feel like you're on an acid trip--

David  51:36  
Nice.

Jordan  51:37  
--and it does a pretty good job. But the thing is, the visuals are incredible. There's a lot of like actual symbolism there and it has a good sense of humor about itself, and I genuinely really enjoy it. It's just kind of not for everybody. My [laughing] other option was, uh, Xavier Renegade Angel.

David  51:54  
God, fuck off. That was a weird time and it--

Jordan  51:56  
[indecipherable] was great though. 

David  51:58  
Alright, alright, so, though, Jordan. [laughs] Here's the big question. Everybody's been waiting. Is this worse than Build King?

Jordan  52:04  
I don't think so. But that is not high praise. I-it's not much better than Build King.

David  52:10  
I really think this is worse. I really just-this was probably the most painful series I'd ever had to read in my entire Shonen Flop career. Like, I really was seriously considering let's just pivot and make this a self-Dandadan episode and just talk about that instead.

Jordan  52:23  
I don't judge you for that opinion. But, my God, I fucking hate Build King. I fucking hate Build King [Reborn Pyro laughs] so much. Like, th-n-don't get me wrong. This series sucks. This series is fucking trash, but, my God, to be--

Yeah.

--worse than Build King? Like, I don't think this artist is skilled enough to be worse than Build King.

Reborn Pyro  52:40  
I see you mentioned in the notes Phantom Seer, I've-I've had a-I had a conversation with Jordan about this. I read chapter one. And I was like, this seems like it might go somewhere and I never touched it again. How badly does it get? 

Jordan  52:53  
Yeah, no, that's how I felt after reading chapter one of Phantom Seer as well.

David  52:56  
Jordan, this is definitely worse than Phantom Seer.

Jordan  52:58  
Yeah.

David  52:58  
Because Phantom Seer wasn't terrible-terrible but it was just super bland. And it really didn't aspire to anything interesting. This is another one where it's like Beast Children-level quality but not so bad it's good. It's just stays bad.

Jordan  53:09  
I agree. I just hate them. [laughing] So your...

David  53:12  
Understand and we'll have a nice day. All right. [laughing] So with that though, you guys ready to go to Shout Outs? 

Reborn Pyro  53:17  
Yeah, let's go. 

David  53:19  
Props to Jordan for making the opening and ending theme, being a great co-host and helping with editing. Props to Shannon for the awesome cover art. You can find her online at illuminyatea and Nigel for being our generous art benefactor. Just to note unfortunately, Shannon is starting to get too busy with school so we are on the lookout for a new artist. She is giving us some recommendations but if you happen to know anyone that you think would be a great, uh, replacement for her, please reach out to us. You can email us, tweet us, or on the discord because we would absolutely love to have a seamless transition to our next artist. 

Jordan  53:46  
You get paid it isn't for free. 

David  53:49  
And then also, thanks to Tucker for assistance with pronounciation, translation, other miscellaneous research. Also thanks for sending us some notes, he's actually listening to this recording right now using his member of Shonen Flop power. I also want to thank Nicole Miriam Agosto for helping with social media.

Jordan  54:01  
And, David, thank you. Just, uh, thank you for editing this.

David  54:05  
Oh, couldn't do without you. And thanks for writing the chibi episode--

Jordan  54:08  
So--

David  54:08  
--bud.

Jordan  54:09  
--welcome. 

David  54:09  
And as we talked about a little bit, be sure to join the Shonen Flop discord. Come hang out with us. Talk about anime, games, or whatever else is on your mind. We also have a book club and regular movie nights. We actually just saw Tucker and Dale vs Evil for our Halloween and then next month, I believe we're going to watch City Hunter based on how apparently people say that's really fun series so that'll be a really fun, French movie to watch. And if you've been enjoying this podcast and want to us help us keep going, consider subscribing to our Patreon. We have a ton of awesome perks ranging from exclusive mini episodes, deleted scenes, and you can even help us pick out what series we're going to cover next. Find that at patreon.com/shonenflop, and on that note, I want to give a thanks to our awesome patrons PterodactylGhost for being a Chainsaw Man level patron and Gabe, Mark Marty, and TWolfwood for being King of--

Jordan  54:48  
Yeahhh.

David  54:48  
--the Forest patrons. TWolfwood is actually listening right now using--

Jordan  54:52  
Sup, TWolfwood?

David  54:52  
--his Patreon power. And if you're not ready for a regular commitment, consider buying some merch. We've got some really awesome cups, mugs, prints with things like the cover art for this episode or our infamous Gomez Moon shirt, which is personally still my favorite art we ever did. And, no worries though, if you can't help the show financially. If you can like, rate, review or just tell a friend about it, it really does mean the world to us. We've been really growing our show and I really look forward to the future of what it means to be continuing to do this podcast with all of our awesome fans and we couldn't do it without support from you. But, you know whose support we also couldn't do this show is from our ever terrific guest, Reborn Pyro, thank you so much for being on the show. Where can they find you?

Reborn Pyro  55:29  
This was insanely fun. You could find us at youtube.com/shredditor. That's S-H-R-E-D-D-I-T-O-R. We have a very diverse cast. The thing I have discovered through doing a year of shreddit is no matter who you are, no matter what-what walk of life you come from most normal people just hate toxic reticence. [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

Jordan  55:51  
Yeah, yeah.

David  55:51  
Yeah, I remember where we had this really long debate on Reddit, like, on multiple threads about can a 19 year old date a 30 year old without it being weird, and so many people [Jordan groans] supported that.

Reborn Pyro  56:02  
We've definitely covered a lot. We've had a few people from Africa, South America, we haven't had anybody from Asia. We've had a lot of people from, uh, Europe and one from Russia.

Jordan  56:12  
Very cool. Got to get some penguins from Antarctica.

Reborn Pyro  56:16  
Oh, that's right. Two continents we haven't covered. 

David  56:19  
No one hits right on more [Jordan laughs] [indecipherable] 

Reborn Pyro  56:21  
We are not ready to start. [laughs]

Jordan  56:25  
So you say. You just have a podcast where you read Reddit all the time. You're not Redditors.

David  56:30  
Yeah, it's like one of those liberal gotchas. It's like you say you hate capitalism yet you pay your rent. Explain that liberal. 

Reborn Pyro  56:37  
Oh, no, I've been called out. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I'm changing my name. I'm moving to a different-goodbye. [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

David  56:41  
[laughing] Sounds good. And then, uh, where exactly can they find Shreddit?

Reborn Pyro  56:46  
youtube.com/shredditor. That's S-H-R-E-D-D-I-T-O-R.

Jordan  56:51  
You guys are on, uh, Spotify and stuff now, I think, right? 

Reborn Pyro  56:55  
Well, to be completely honest, I actually looked at what platforms you guys were on to figure out where-how [laughing] to move our show. So we-so we're pretty much on every platform, you guys.

Jordan  57:04  
Hell, yeah. Glad to hear it.

Reborn Pyro  57:06  
It's a fun time. Uh, people like us. We have a segment at the end where we read AB/DL posts [Jordan laughs] or we grab a post from the AB/DL subreddit and make the guest--

Jordan  57:15  
I-I didn't read it, yeah.

Reborn Pyro  57:15  
--read. Of course, some of the bigger guests declined because they don't want a recording of their voice reading [laughs] that.

David  57:21  
What is that subreddit?

Reborn Pyro  57:22  
Adult baby diaper love.

David  57:23  
Alright. [Reborn Pyro laughs] Yeah. Okay, so. All right. This isn't a --

Jordan  57:26  
Yeah [indecipherable]

David  57:26  
--great recording. [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh]

Reborn Pyro  57:29  
Don't worry, I'll-I'll force you to read one next time. It's fine. 

David  57:31  
Thanks. [Reborn Pyro laughs] I love-I use-I use my baby voice.

Jordan  57:34  
I'm sorry. It's adult baby diaper lover, by the way. So yeah, let's move on.

David  57:38  
Oh, okay. Well, that's it-that one's okay. You just-y-you do a factory reset with the fetish--

Jordan  57:42  
Exactly, yup. [laughs]

David  57:42  
--and you slip back to normal. Yeah, it was like that 4chan. I wrote a [indecipherable] for this guy. I was like-I was-I was fapping to, like, really degenerate porn. And then just the next day, I was like, I just want to see girls making out in bikinis. It was, like, did my-did my, like, brain [Jordan and Reborn Pyro laugh] do a factory reset? [outro music] Okay, so anyway, no. Good, it's time now. This has been David.

Jordan  58:02  
This has been Jordan.

Reborn Pyro  58:04  
This has been Pyro.

David  58:06  
And you've been listening to Shonen Flop. 

Jordan  58:08  
Keep on flopping floppers. 

David  58:10  
Yeah. 

Jordan  58:11  
Yeah.

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