#44 Philosophy School, Yotsuya Sensei's Ghost Stories (Ft. Kendra from the My Hero Academia Podcast)

[Transcript by Trafalagar Wolfwood]

David  0:00  
[Intro Music] Welcome to this episode of Shonen Flop where we talk about manga series in Shonen Jump that didn't make it big. I'm David. 
 

Jordan  0:17  
I'm spooky Jordan. 
 

David  0:19  
Oh man. And this week we are talking about the very spooky but not actually Philosophy School and we are joined by our guest today Kendra! 
 

Kendra  0:30  
Hello it's Kendra or should I say boo but I [Jordan laughs] am from the My Hero Academia podcast and the Haikyuu!! Podcast. Who's this? What's who? Who writes this manga? I wonder who could it be? 
 

David  0:39  
Oh my gosh.
 

Jordan  0:41  
No spoilers. We haven't gotten to that section [Kendra laughs] yet. C'mon Kendra.
 

David  0:44  
Yeah, we haven't even started but that's actually super good transition into the manga details. [David and Jordan laugh] So fuck it, I'm going to take the low road and let's get on cause this, this recording is going to be a fucking weird one.
 

Jordan  0:56  
I will say, I feel like I do have to um state the actual title of the series.
 

David  1:02  
Go for it.
 

Jordan  1:02  
Kiben Gakuha Yotsuya Sempai no Kaigan, believe literally translates to um...
 

David  1:09  
This series didn't make any sense. [Jordan giggles]
 

Jordan  1:11  
That's what it means [Kendra laughs] but it literally translates to Philosophy School [Jordan snorts] Ghost Story or something?
 

David  1:18  
Yeah.
 

Jordan  1:19  
Like Yotsuya Sempai's Ghost Story? Philosophy School I fucking I don't know [Jordan laughs]
 

David  1:26  
There's a Ghost of Senior Yotsuya is one of the translations
 

Jordan  1:33  
Senior Yotsuya.
 

David  1:34  
I was watching too much Encanto which-
 

Jordan  1:37  
Ola.
 

David  1:38  
That movie is the most rough draft made to production I have ever seen cause there are a lot of lyrics in those songs that don't make any sense or don't line up with the video and I really want Jenny Nicholson to do a video on Encanto where she can point all this stuff out.

Jordan  1:49  
What movie? [Kendra grunts]
 

David  1:50  
Encanto.
 

Kendra  1:51  
The Bruno one.
 

David  1:52  
Yeah, the We Don't Talk About Bruno, the one that has {Cathy Bears} in it.
 

Jordan  1:55  
I have no idea what you're talking about at all.
 

David  1:57  
Go get Disney+ and stop being a pleab. Like the main thing that stood out to me is there's a song and like it's two sisters singing with each other and jsut to rhyme with the last lyric one of the sisters goes everybody get out of the way but their literally dancing on top of a rooftop and it's just them by themselves. [Jordan laughs] [Kendra grunts] So I was like did anyone actually check the visuals of the song was?
 

Jordan  2:18  
Oh that's great.
 

David  2:19  
Clearly they did not do a pass which reminds me a lot of the translation effort of which we will-[Kendra grunts]
 

Jordan  2:24  
Owned.
 [Jordan laughs]

David  2:24  
Get into but for now let's get to talking about the actual details of the manga now that we have a rough idea what we're gunna call it. I'm gunna keep calling it Philosophy School, I dunno about you guys. [David laughs]
 

Jordan  2:34  
I'm gunna call it Philosophy School, I don't fucking-
 

Kendra  2:37  
Horror School.
 

Jordan  2:38  
Horror School actually I think more accurate to what it's supposed to mean but fuck it, it's Philosophy School.
 

David  2:45  
So let's move into.
 

Jordan  2:46  
Just so you guys know,when I do a Spanish accent, I'm doing a Spanish accent of European Spain, so it's not racist.
 

David  2:55  
This reminds me of Dungeon our Dungeons and Dragons campaign where I played a Mexican wrestler and I had to figure out how thick his Spanish accent could be before it got kind of offencive. [Jordan laughed] I really walked a tightrope every single session of that campaign.
 

Jordan  3:07  
I feel like you fell off the tightrope once or twice but I know you were trying.
 

David  3:11  
It was a great campaign.
 

Jordan  3:12  
It was a lot of fun, yeah. I was a gross turtle monster.
 

David  3:16  
You did such a good job, Louis was afraid to meet you in person. [David and Jordan laughs] So anyway, to get into this series itself, it's based off a one shot which I did not read because literally every person who said they read it said it was absolutely horseshit and that and that this was a million times better and this was also very bad. So that really concerned me. Spoiler alert, based off the Chibi my impressions did not change of this series.
 

Jordan  3:38  
Ok but now I do actually want to read that one shot just out of morbid curiosity.
 [D]It's The Room of manga one shot.
 

Kendra  3:45  
The main difference would be he's a teacher in it, and then there's like some explaination about how limbs are stored which I appreciated cause I was like that's just gunna rot.
 

David  3:54  
I appreciate the attention to detail on that. [Kendra grunts in agreement] Um, but yeah. And so we alluded to this series created by Haruichi Furudate, which is the creator of what series Kendra?
 

Kendra  4:05  
Haikyuu!!
 

David  4:06  
Everyone's second favorite volleyball manga after, Jordan, what's the number one volleyball manga in Shonen Jump? [Kendra gasps]
 

Jordan  4:13  
Oh god, um, um, oh no, shit um, um, Beast Children?
 

Kendra  4:19  
High School Family. [Kendra laughs]
 

Jordan  4:20  
Of course, of course, of course. [Jordan horse groans]
 

David  4:23  
That was the most perfect setup-
 

Jordan  4:25  
Well.
 

Kendra  4:25  
He set you up I mean he serve you for
 like a set.

David  4:29  
Disappointed Gomez face.

Jordan  4:31  
I guess you're the cohost on Shonen Flop for now on.

Kendra  4:34  
Ha ha ha ha ha!

Jordan  4:35  
Bye everybody.

David  4:36  
Yeah, Jordan had a pretty good run.

Jordan  4:38  
Yeah.

David  4:38  
Unlike this series where it ran from March 1st, 2010 to July 5th, 2010. It ran for three volumes and 18 chapters. So this was at least a merciful read, we're not having a B. Ichi moment where that was virtually fucking awful [Jordan groans] and really fucking bad.

Jordan  4:52  
Ok, so Kendra, [Kendra grunts] B. Ichi was by Okubo who did Soul Eater so that was his first uh first project. It was 20 chapters long so we were like oh this is a short series. We didn't realize until we started reading it. Our poor guest however Riley, each chapter was double the length-
 

Kendra  5:09  
Oh.
 

Jordan  5:09  
Of a normal chapter. [Kendra gasps]
 

Oh.
 

Kendra  5:12  
Cause that's why I always confuse with Boichi because it's B. Ichi, Boichi. Like Boichi Dr. Stone guy.
 

Jordan  5:17  
Yeah.
 

David  5:18  
But I will say, Riley 400 IQ, read one in four chapters [Kendra laughs] and we could't tell during the recording. 
 

Jordan  5:26  
At all.
 

David  5:27  
And it's called the Riley method [Kendra gasps] which [Kendra snorts] I was so extremely tempted to do when we read Bokke-San [Kendra moans]
 

Jordan  5:34  
Look, if if Bokke-San if every chapter was 40 pages I would've totally understood.
 

David  5:40  
We would have changed what manga we were reading after the 30th. [Kendra laughs]
 

Jordan  5:43  
Yeah we would've just stopped.
 

David  5:45  
All right so though enough about other terrible series what do we find out about- [Kendra giggles] 
 

Jordan  5:50  
This terrible series.

David  5:52  
You know this is reminding me about I jsut came from Italy because this plot is a lot of fucking spaghetti. [Jordan laughs] Where let's go about the manga.
 

Kendra  5:59  
It's a terrible meat ball. Sorry. [Jordan laughs]

David  6:02  
I did a fucking like cross before I read Jordan's plot summary because I was like this poorish man having to write this. [Kendra laughs][Jordan groans]
 

Jordan  6:10  
I wrote this at uh about 5am this morning. [Kendra laughs]

David  6:13  
Oh good. Jordan take have a sip of coffee and take it us away.

Jordan  6:17  
Okay, so there's this creepy middle school kid that no one believes actually exists name Yotsuya, who is obsessed with writing horror stories. He's approached by a girl named Makoto Nakashima, whose friend Hinano went missing recently, and together the two decide to prank a serial killer teacher into being arrested by convincing him he's being haunted by a spooky disfigured doll, but he didn't kidnap Hinano and instead kidnapped a much younger, completely different girl because it turns out that Makoto's friend was kidnapped by just another middle school student who had a crush on her and was crazy. This kid just tied her up and put her in a shed and I guess she was just there for like multiple days and it's not really a big deal. 

David  7:02  
Yeah.

Jordan  7:02  
They rescue her and resolve what is that time the only plot thread in the series but at this point, it's only chapter two. So the series resolves it's plot immediately. Popcorn David.

Kendra  7:16  
Yotsuya saw her earlier? And he's like, Oh, she's here. I guess he like freed her but he didn't tell anybody He decided to do the prey thing.

David  7:23  
Yo, I just kidnapped her as a prank, bro. 

Jordan  7:26  
Yeah, no, it was a prank. 

They had like flip phones because this is so old, so they couldn't even [Kendra grunts] it's not like fucking remember the fucking YouTube prank guys from Double Taisei?

Oh my God, those guys.

David  7:39  
Kendra you should read Double Taisei. 

Jordan  7:40  
Oh, yeah. Double Taisei rules. 

David  7:42  
It's definitely the most garbage fire that loops back to being amazing series. 

Jordan  7:46  
Yeah.

Kendra  7:47  
I just love the guy who like lives in the body suit or something. I don't know.

David  7:51  
Yes. And it becomes a fashion trend. Okay, anyway, back to-

Kendra  7:53  
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Yeah.

David  7:54  
So a long time ago, an art student killed herself and the image of her hanging created the perfect composition. So the teacher drew it and they try and scare him by dressing up the girl's grandson or nephew depending on the translation, but it turns out that the kid was actually Yotsuya his target here because they were trying to get the teacher to kill himself so they could see another perfect composition. None of this is relevant to anything.

Jordan  8:13  
Completely irrelevant not a single bit of this comes back at all. 

David  8:18  
Yeah. Yotsuya and Makoto scare a teacher who wants to remove Yotsuya's class desk, because he's never fucking there. But whatever. Popcorn Kendra,

Kendra  8:29  
A new guidance counselor who looks like a fox appears and starts spreading rumors about ouijia board style goes called Kokkuri-san that answers yes or no questions which leads to everyone going fucking insane because it tells kids to steal hair and tells the teachers to be abusive. And they all do what it says for some reason, or it's kind of like telling them to do whatever they want. Yatsuya spreads an alternate rumor about it. He like says there's like another one and like one mangles children's bodies and it's like, what is real? What is not? I don't know. 

Jordan  8:58  
I don't know what's real and what isn't while [Kendra snorts] I'm reading this manga.

David  9:02  
But that's the whole point. It's a meta meta narrative Jordan. 

Kendra  9:05  
Yeah.

Jingle  9:05  
It disorients you you know like a horror movie I guess.

Kendra  9:09  
It tries to be like a bit too meta. And then finally

Jordan  9:12  
Yeah.

Kendra  9:12  
A student's sister turns up decapitated, killed by the principal. I think we saw her body. It was like this weird they kept getting brought up. But the principal who's name we don't even know a brand new character who suddenly went insane and wants Yatsuya to write a story about how scary he is so people will remember him. Yatsuya says he will but won't use his name thwarting his plans, I guess as well as like, I think he decides in the end to not share the story at all? 

Jordan  9:35  
Maybe? 

Kendra  9:36  
Yeah, that's what he says he'll never tell anyone the story.

Jingle  9:38  
Oh, okay. I got confused. Big shock. I got confused reading this series.

David  9:43  
We all did, buddy. It's okay.

Kendra  9:45  
Yeah, I've read it a few times to just to like I would I need to remember [Jordan laughs] what happens in this.

Jordan  9:49  
I appreciate it. I'm glad somebody here has a little more grasp on the plot. 

David  9:54  
We should have just had Kendra write the plot summary. [Kendra gasps]

Kendra  9:58  
I'm sorry, uh. 

Jordan  9:59  
No, you your fine, you're doing well.

David  10:01  
Keep going.

Jordan  10:01  
Keep going.

Kendra  10:02  
They scare him until he gets arrested and everyone cheers up the victim's brother by finding a birthday letter that the victim wrote to him on the back of receipt like right before she died because she bought him like a birthday cake. Then there's a time skip and they're in high school except Yatsuya is missing kinda and then he's not. Boo. Gotcha. The end. [Jordan laughs]

David  10:20  
What a fucking twist.

Jordan  10:21  
Oh, man, thank you Kendra was great. 

David  10:23  
Very based of you, as I uh David likes to say. 

Jordan  10:26  
Yeah, that's David's [Kendra laughs] catchphrase. He started doing like a couple months ago he just says based now it's just the thing.

David  10:32  
I've had to tell people at base means I think at least three times now. 

Jordan  10:35  
David, what does based mean? 

David  10:37  
That Sniper Island is in your heart? 

Kendra  10:38  
Yes. 

David  10:39  
Um. [Jordan and Kendra laugh]

Kendra  10:40  
An acidic base.

David  10:42  
So is that green text or someone was like I was inside I was in chemistry class and someone asked what the opposite of based is and I responded cringe [Jordan laughs] [Kendra humms] so anyway, you know what else is cringe is this fucking characters in this series. [Jordan giggles] [Kendra grunts in agreement] So I'll get started with the main character who I have wanted to be calling Yotsuba a much better manga this entire time, but it's Yotsuba Buntaro and thank you Kendra for letting me know his last name is not senpai [Kendra laughs] because the manga was not clear with how they kept writing his name as Yotsuya senpai.

Kendra  11:11  
I was wrong. His last name is Yots Yotsu yeah Yots. Oh sorry. Neah.

Jordan  11:15  
How dare you Kendra [Kendra laughs] not not be able to figure out exactly what's going on in the series?

Kendra  11:21  
I mean he never mentioned Buntaro. Buntaro was like only in the one shot. I think even.

Jordan  11:27  
There's a moment in this series where like Makoto mentions that like, all we know about Yatsuya is like his given name or the name that people call him or so that so they so they only know like Yatsuya or something? [Kendra grunts in agreement]

David  11:40  
Who fucking knows. But anyway, he collects stories. He loves horror, he has no traits. There's absolutely nothing about him that we know about. We don't even see him ever leave the school, which I guess is kind of a mystery. Is he really a person is he not? Yes he is he is pretty plain. He's a real person.

Jordan  11:53  
I also think that like Yotsuya is easily like the most interesting character in the series.

David  11:59  
Yeah. 

Jordan  11:59  
Not that that's saying like that much. There's like two characters in this series that are vaguely kind of interesting. I enjoy Yotsuya and Makoto has like interactions together, usually [David grunts in agreement] sometimes when it's just them, but like, the thing I like about Yotsuya is that he's just kind of like an edgy teen. 

David  12:17  
Yeah. 

Jordan  12:17  
I'll get into more of it later. But like, I know, there there are some positives with Yotsuya. [Kendra grunts in agreement]

David  12:23  
He's not an offensively annoying character. 

Jordan  12:25  
No.

David  12:25  
He just is very but you know, it's like, I enjoy eating saltines sometimes,

Jordan  12:29  
I don't even feel like he's bland. I just feel like he's used very poorly. 

David  12:32  
Yeah.

Kendra  12:33  
I feel like he does get like a bit of development when he goes like for the cherry or cherry one he's like, Oh, if you die, I can say whatever I want about you. But then he's kind of like nice in the end when he like goes out of his way to like, remind the brother of his sister's like voice and like, sent her last message. I think he kind of like warms up a little bit.

David  12:50  
That's fair. So Jordan, would you like to talk about the duro protagonist?

Jordan  12:54  
That is Nakashima Makoto. She's an eighth grader. She's kind of dumb. 

David  12:59  
Yep. 

Jordan  12:59  
In like a charming kind of way. She's a kid. That's kind of her thing. Like she's just kind of caring [David grunts in agreement] not that smart and does enjoy hearing the spooky stories that Yatsuya tells like she approaches him because her friend is missing. And because he is like, I guess a detective. I guess he's like you like Yusuke Urameshi, is like spirit detective or something. [David laughs] But yeah she's also easily frightened. [David grunts in agreement]

David  13:23  
And she loves food.

Jordan  13:24  
Oh yeah she loves food.

Kendra  13:25  
Yeah, I think like she doesn't really like the mysteries at first.

David  13:28  
Yeah, she just kind of doesn't have anything better to do. 

Jordan  13:30  
Well, I'm gonna be clear here David. She loves dango. 

Kendra  13:34  
Yes. 

David  13:34  
She does love dango. 

Jordan  13:35  
Loves that dango. Unchained. [Kendra giggles] [David snots]

David  13:39  
She's the only person we actually really see substantial like out of school like we meet her family, don't we? [Kendra grunts in agreement] 

Jordan  13:44  
Yeah. 

David  13:44  
And she has all these family members that don't matter.

Kendra  13:46  
It's really funny for her is that like if you go to the uh the anima anime listing for her like her and one of her brothers is the only people with like, anime quality like pictures because they appear in Haikyuu!!, like as themselves.

Jordan  13:59  
What? 

Kendra  14:00  
Yeah.

David  14:01  
So is it the same character? Or is it like um Ozu with My Hero Academia,

Kendra  14:06  
It's like same character. [Jordan laughs]

David  14:10  
They're just like, Yeah, my sister gone some really weird shit with ghost stories and mass murders. But whatever let's flat let's talk about volleyball.

Jordan  14:18  
Yeah. 

Kendra  14:18  
Because yeah, like her brother is like, a kind of a rival to Hinata a little bit like they play his team and they shoot social, like they their family is the only one who goes to their matches for some reason, like no one else ever brings their family or like parents, I guess.

Jordan  14:30  
So is she like, like a major character in Haikyuu!!?

Kendra  14:34  
She's like there for two seconds where it's like, oh, this is my younger sister who or I think like they change the ages as well that she's younger instead of older but like she runs around a lot or something.

Jordan  14:45  
What the fuck retconning [Kendra laughs] really? Oh my god.

Kendra  14:50  
She's like minor in it. Her brother is like, kind of not. He's not like he's just important for that match. And he comes back later a little bit.

Jordan  14:56  
That's that's all right, that's cool. That's fine. 

David  14:58  
Then then uh Kendra. While we have you Do you want to talk about the next major character the substitute teacher?

Kendra  15:03  
Shinamo he's kind of an asshole but he at the I love that he ends up helping. It's so like random. He's just their friend now.

David  15:09  
That was actually nice that he ended up like legitimately redeeming himself as a character.

Jordan  15:14  
It was but it was also like, this guy's here now?

David  15:17  
Yeah, he's supposed to be a substitute teacher and he just stays for the whole time. 

Jordan  15:20  
Yeah, he's not a substitute. He said just their teacher. I got confused as hell.

David  15:26  
So what happened was there was a kendo club and then [Kendra grunts in agreement] I guess imagine if there was just like in the background and it's just like kenrdo cl- kendo club bus crashes and [Jordan laughs] so he's like the teacher died in like a car crash with the team on the way back.

Kendra  15:38  
But he's like an asshole with a heart of gold and he has some like words of wisdom like when the Makoto like tries to jump over fire. He's like, No, you're my student. Like, please don't die on my watch. [Jordan laughs] I don't I love that they pranked him because there's a nice like little break from everything where they're just mad that he got rid of the desk, but he's their friend now.

Jordan  15:57  
Yeah. 

David  15:58  
Well, we'll get to the positive I thought that was the only good part of the series. And then should we go on to the next character? 

Jordan  16:05  
Yeah. Tadanobu Kudou.

David  16:07  
Who is AK evil uh Yotsuya. He is a counselor. He thinks humans are gross. He helped set up murderers he's kind of fucked up in the head. But is he like still there after the timeskip? Like he didn't go to jail.

Jordan  16:18  
He did not scare him into getting arrested, no.

David  16:21  
You fucking helped convince people to kill other people. How are you still? How do you still have this job?

Kendra  16:26  
He like saved them with this like weird building thing from the think he gave a more air to a fire and it helped somehow.

Jordan  16:34  
David who would fire him? The principal got arrested. [Jordan laughs] 

David  16:38  
Flawless logic. Of course. 

Jordan  16:39  
Also, he's a fox guy?

Kendra  16:42  
Yeah, he's like, behind the Kokkuri game. Like he's making people do it or something he like he's a hypnotist basically.

Jordan  16:50  
Yeah. Like you spread around the concept of the Oujia board [Kendra grunts in agreement] and called it something else, basically. And like everybody says he looks like a fox. And I guess he kind of does. 

David  17:00  
Yeah, sure. Why not?

Jordan  17:01  
 Yeah, you know, it's an an anime fox. I guess. It's so dumb. I don't understand what he does to be honest.

Kendra  17:08  
I think he was kind of introduced to kind of be like the rival when like, you need something else. Okay, we need the rival have somebody to counteract it.

David  17:17  
It's so weird for your rival to be a teacher. So his rival is like 15 years older than him. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  17:22  
At least we don't know how old Yotsuya is and he mentioned that he's just been in middle school for a long time.

Kendra  17:31  
Like he mentioned, he used the like cherry story before and that was like 20 years ago. So it's like, Wait, how old are you like what's happening? 

Jordan  17:40  
Like, maybe you are a ghost? I would love it if the series ended with a revelation a Yotsuya was a ghost. 

Kendra  17:47  
It almost did. [Kendra laughs]

David  17:48  
What if like, Yeah, someone was like, who have you've been talking to son? What do you mean? I'm talking and they it's just like fades away.

Jordan  17:53  
And it's the only actual uh paranormal thing in the whole series. [Kendra grunts in agreement]

David  17:57  
Yeah, pretty much. 

Jordan  17:58  
Kendra, I believe you pointed out a couple completely non important people too. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  18:04  
I wrote it down not important people because because I like them. Hinano she's a kidnap friend who they save but she comes back and helps out and like plays the ghost and they like use her shoes. I just love that there's another friend who's there to just help out. 

Jordan  18:17  
Yeah.

Kendra  18:17  
It kind of feels like a little friend group. Oh Komachi sensei who's like a nice teacher a bit of a pushover, but she becomes a hard ass and like kind of gets possessed by the weird Ouijia board game. But she ends up dating the other teach a substitute teacher guy or something in the end? 

Jordan  18:32  
Right. Yeah. 

Kendra  18:33  
I just think it's kind of cool to follow her story a little bit. Seita Hasegawa, he's the brother of the murdered Hanako and he's I love that he's kind of in the background of chapters when like other plots are going on. Like it turns out they weren't close you're like Wait, did he kill her?

Jordan  18:45  
leads to like, the moment where um Makoto invites him to see her family [Kendra grunts in agreement] that's like a sweet kind of moment. You know, where he's like, wow, I haven't had like a family cooked meal in a very long time. And yeah, it's a sweet moment.

Kendra  19:00  
Yeah. And like the not [Jordan giggles] sad lonely line. I really like and just uh kind of mentioned the anniversary of his mother's death is his birthday. 

Jordan  19:06  
Oof., 

David  19:07  
Yeah. 

Kendra  19:07  
They cheer him up. And I guess it's kind of like an accurate reaction to someone getting murdered. It's kind of showing like behind the horror story a little bit and how like what happens to the principal tries to do a horror story and it like impacts other people. [David grunts in agreement] And also do we could see like Hanako being more than just a scary name or like a stereotypical name and a horror story like being reminded of his sister's face and voice is really sweet because that's like I think that's the second last chapter and it's probably my favorite just cause- 

Jordan  19:31  
Yeah. 

Kendra  19:31  
I think like horror and like, Oh, it's a lot or not all the time. I guess hot girl gets murdered and you got to solve the case. And obviously that's not all the stuff and like even JUnji Ito, I think what do you guys remember what the one is where it's the scary hot girl and she like murders people?

David  19:44  
Tomie right? 

Kendra  19:45  
Yes.

Jordan  19:45  
You're right. That is just kind of a trope, you know, where it's like, [David grunts in agreement] oh, the evil seductress, you know. [Kendra grunts in agreement] she'll kill you or it's like, oh, no, this this hot girl got killed. Oh, it's so much worse because she's hot. [David laughs]

Kendra  20:03  
So like I really appreciate that the the that like also we have like the two girls Hino and Makoto, kind of like, I think I'm like reading a little bit too much into the series that I like, wanted it to go into that. I apologize. That little part of it made me happy, but it's not really.

Jordan  20:11  
No it's fine yeah. 

David  20:13  
Yeah, but not everything can make you happy. [Kendra laughs] So though um why don't we go into why it failed, because we only have 55 minutes of recording time so I want to make sure we can dedicate 50 minutes to this set now. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  20:24  
Sorry.

David  20:25  
So why don't we transition to that. We should start diving into the everything that the series fucked up? 

Jordan  20:30  
Yeah. 

David  20:30  
Jordan, you were really excited to run this section, so what is the first issue you have with this series? Lay it on us.

Jordan  20:37  
Okay, so this is the central core problem. The author is clearly decently talented at writing, like characters interacting in ways that are like fun or cute or sweet or whatever. And just awful at writing horror It's not scary, and it's impossible to follow. I can see him writing this and thinking, Okay, I'm writing a horror story. Horror is disorienting, [David grunts in agreement] horror knocks you off your uh off your game, it confuses you, you wind up in a situation where you're like, oh, man, what's gonna happen next? This is so tense and stuff like that. But the author is trying to make it disorienting he just makes it completely confusing. Like, you'll be reading it. And I remember like, going from the end of chapter one to the beginning of chapter two, it was like this huge whiplash, because like, they just found a serial killer who cut up little girls. And then the next chapter, they're just kind of playing around and stuff like that. And it's like a complete feels like a completely different series, and is actually like significantly better until the horror starts back up again. I also really do want to point out there is a massive fluctuation in stakes here. 

David  21:45  
Yeah. [Kendra grunts in agreement]

Jordan  21:46  
First Chapter, there's a serial killer who chops up little girls, the next chapter, there's a high schooler who kidnaps a girl and hides her in like a shed, then, you know, we have like the student who, like um may have killed herself and the teacher like that. [Kendra grunts in agreement] It's a complicated thing. But then we just have a teacher who's trying to move a desk [Kendra laughs] and oh, no, a kid might get kicked off the Kendo team. 

David  22:10  
Yep. 

Jordan  22:11  
And now this teacher's mean and it's and then for the last chapter, the author is like shit, I gotta really pull out something to freak people out. What if I do another teacher who's an evil serial killer? [Jordan laughs]

David  22:25  
Well, it's a principle. It's different. 

Jordan  22:26  
Oh it's the principle so- 

Kendra  22:27  
Yeah.

Jordan  22:27  
It's more hardcore this time? Yeah.

David  22:29  
I mean, yeah, I think clearly, the author realized he needed to deescalate the tone of the series, but then he was like, Well, I'm ending it. So I might just make it really exciting. 

Jordan  22:36  
Yeah, it was very exciting. I will give him that. 

David  22:40  
That ties into the main complaint I had is that writing PG 13 horror is extremely difficult to do very, very few people can do it because you don't get to have the shock value of violence or more mature content. You know, you can't really have someone strapped in a chair being tortured by someone in a mask to make it scary. It all has to be mostly psychological which guess what, when you're not good at writing, you're not going to write things that seem scary just purely through the implication or through the intensity of the scene because you can't use shock value of violence. 

Jordan  23:11  
No, definitely. [Kendra grunts in agreement] It's actually kind of a problem. I hear a lot of horror fans talk about like how there's so many PG 13 horror movies because if you make something PG 13 you can get a bigger audience because you know, you got like that a ton of teenagers who can now legally see your movie, but unfortunately yeah, it results in like these much tamer experiences that just don't connect as much and along with that, it really felt a lot of the times that this wasn't really a horror manga it was like a parody of of horror. [David laughs] It was trying to be so meta. It was like it was like a comedy manga about horror at certain times, but then it actually does try and be horror, like it fails at what like Evil Dead is able to do.

David  23:53  
Yeah. 

Kendra  23:54  
Feels like, it's not sure if it wants to do like a detective story or horror because like horror stories you tell in like schools or like schoolyard horror stories, you always know who the person is. It's not really a mystery. And I think it's always obvious who did it. It's always like the weird kid and even when they try to switch it up, like with the hanging from the tree one, it just feels like weird. And I I really liked that one, because it just seemed to mean 

David  24:18  
Yeah.

Kendra  24:18  
I think like there's a bit of confusion where it's like, is it a grandma? Is it her aunt? Because it's like, oba versus obasan. It's like really similar. [David laughs]

David  24:25  
I thought you were about to say, Obama. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  24:27  
I read like, parts of that chapter and like different- 

Kendra  24:30  
Yeah.

Jordan  24:30  
Translations. I don't know if that was a girl or boy. I genuinely-

Kendra  24:35  
 Yeah.

Jordan  24:35  
Don't like like they swapped back and forth depending on which version of the series you're reading.

Kendra  24:40  
Furudate is like so popular. I just want them to translate this to make money and then like I can read it and enjoy it and tell what is happening, or. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  24:47  
I don't know if I would have enjoyed this series if it was better translated, but I think I would have been at least on some level less confused regardless of how spaghetti the plot might be. The fact that it is translated poorly does it absolutely no favors. 

Kendra  25:02  
Yeah. 

Jordan  25:02  
Some of the mistranslations here are are pretty funny, I- 

Kendra  25:06  
Snickers. 

Jordan  25:07  
Oh yeah, there's there's a moment where they're trying to talk about sneakers and they're just like, Hey, did you get your Snickers? And then immediately after she says, Again, same misspelling. Oh, yeah, I have my Snickers.

David  25:18  
I legitimately think she was just eating candy bars and sticking them on her feet, you know? 

Jordan  25:21  
Yeah. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  25:22  
Yeah.

David  25:23  
This is actually a prequel to Candy Flurry.

Kendra  25:26  
I feel like a lot of the series I was like, Where are the police? [Kendra gasps]

David  25:30  
Yeah, it's a fucking Scooby Doo. There's only kids solving these fucking mysteries.

Kendra  25:34  
And like the costume shop. And they just like get their handcuffs stolen. I really wish had been a high school-

Jordan  25:38  
Yeah.

Kendra  25:39  
In stead of a middle school. 

David  25:40  
Yeah, I don't know why it wasn't. 

Kendra  25:41  
Yeah, I guess it's like they can graduate to that. But it just felt weird. I feel like it's almost like not trying to be like high level horror. It's like middle school level scary stories you tell your friend is like kind of the the bar it was setting. 

Jordan  25:53  
Yeah. 

Kendra  25:54  
But we're reading this and expecting a better quality than that. And it's like, I don't think it even hits the bar of doing that either. [David grunts in agreement]

Jordan  26:02  
I feel like the tone is just all over the fucking place. It's so hard to get your bearings and even understand what's going on. And then like the fact that like um the things characters say seem to be disregarded by what they say later. Like the series is trying to be very clever and throw in a bunch of twists. But the author is failing to explain these twists in a way that is followable. So as a result, they don't become twists. They just become contradictions.

David  26:35  
Yeah, there's a total like tonal shift reset after every chapter like the big thing I noticed is there's zero staying power psychologically, these events the teacher [Kendra grunts in agreement] that literally got tied up and like kidnapped and her hair cut off is completely the same as she was before this incident in this when she reappears. 

Jordan  26:52  
Makoto's friend was kidnapped by a fellow school student and held in a fucking shed for absolutely multiple days at least. And she's out. She's just happy and she's like, Yeah, hey, what's up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm doing well. Like no, you should be you. You shouldn't be in school right now. You shouldn't be in like a hospital or something. You just went through something really harrowing. Why are you here right now?

Kendra  27:17  
I guess I wonder for the teacher. It's kind of that I think you even like putting a little bit like she put that scary thing and then she also gets like possessed in quotation marks afterwards so it's like it left her vulnerable. But it's not like the story really intended to do that even.

David  27:30  
It's all just stupid. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  27:33  
It feels like the characters in this series are acting like they're in a much sillier manga than this manga is trying to be. 

David  27:43  
It thinks it Scooby Doo. 

Jordan  27:45  
It does. It thinks it's Scooby Doo. Maybe it thinks it's like Azumanga Daioh or Lucky Star sometimes and install-

David  27:52  
Azumanga die oh. [Jordan laughs]

Jordan  27:56  
That's a good one. David. That's a good one. 

David  27:57  
Thank you. 

Jordan  27:58  
Azumanga Die Oh. Yeah.

Kendra  28:00  
And as I was reading my notes, I was like, oh, it's because horror in Jump in general. So it's not like something you see often, but like, that's not really and I was like, Wait a second. That's not really true at all. Like Jujitstu Kaisen is horror elements. 

David  28:09  
Chainsaw man. 

Jordan  28:10  
Like yeah, you're probably not gonna see Junji Ito in Shonen Jump, but like, there's definitely scary shit in Shonen Jump,

David  28:16  
He could put his cat manga in Shonen Jump. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  28:18  
Oh that is true. That is true. Yeah.

David  28:20  
I also want to point out Azumanga Daioh also make Yotsuba so we're two for two for references to that writer.

Jordan  28:25  
Yeah.

David  28:27  
But speaking of things that actually are worth reading, why don't we get into the positives and talk about some of the little nuggets of joy this series brought. So Kendra, I know you're very, very excited to talk about so really, what made you want to I guess read this series and what did you really enjoy about it? 

Kendra  28:43  
I like the scary faces. I think there's some times [David giggles] you guys didn't like the horror but I think sometimes people like turned at the camera and did like the scary eye thing and made me jump.

David  28:51  
It's like Our Blood Oath where that was like one of the few good parts is that there were these really intense visuals that people like you could just read the first chapter of Our Blood Oath, which has pretty much the same theme. [Kendra grunts in agreement]

Jordan  29:00  
I feel like Our Blood Oath pulled it off better though. 

David  29:02  
Oh, it definitely did. 

Jordan  29:03  
Yeah. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  29:04  
Like the female main character, she has some good like smiles I think sometimes and like Lena for I think she's really cool that she kind of gets to be the like typical shonen protagonists were like, Oh, she loves her friends and she will act without thinking but it's just nice that she's a girl and like I think guys mentioned your notes like she's not sexual sex. She's not sexualized or anything.

Jordan  29:22  
Brings up a good question as we're talking about how we feel like this would be in high school. I feel like this was in high school. She might have been more sexualized. 

Kendra  29:28  
Oh, yeah. 

David  29:29  
Oh, that's true. I kept forgetting she was like an eighth grader. [Kendra grunts in agreement] 

Jordan  29:32  
Yeah.

David  29:32  
it hasn't stopped some series.

Jordan  29:33  
That hasn't stopped some series but thankfully it stopped this one.

Kendra  29:37  
I just appreciate that characters come back that her her her friend Hinano like comes back and helps out with cases I just like women aren't just dead bodies of the horror stories. They have feelings have their own stories. And I kind of like that it only tells seven stories and kind of has like a nice bow at the end to be like oh, I meant to end this early. What are you talking about? [David and Jordan laugh] I did this on purpose all along.

Jordan  29:58  
Looking back. I I do agree with you Kendra. I actually like a lot of the characters in here. [Kendra grunts in agreement] I have no problem with Makoto. I I think that she's, I think she's great. The way that her and Yatsuya interact is really funny sometimes because it's just, it's guilty of just telling her like a spooky story and then basically going boo. Argh, and it freaks her out. It's genuinely like, pretty funny. [Kendra grunts in agreement]

David  30:22  
I do actually think this series has good use of grey tones, which a lot of manga just simply does black and white. So I want to at least note that I know Jordan, you still don't like it, but it's not like the author didn't put effort into their art.

Jordan  30:31  
I'm actually gonna say I kind of changed my opinion on the art. I think that the art got better after the first chapter. It's still very shaky in a lot of places. There's definitely parts where I'm like, [David grunts in agreement] Oh, he didn't give a fuck about this panel. 

David  30:43  
Yeah.

Jordan  30:43  
But there are definitely a lot of panels where I'm like, okay, hey, this looks like a professional fucking series. A lot of the panels look like screenshots from an anime.

David  30:53  
Yeah, I also do want to say that the only chapter that I legitimately thought was good was the whole fucking with a substitute teacher thing.

Jordan  30:59  
Oh that was a good one. 

David  31:00  
If that was the tone of this series, it would have lasted a lot longer because that was the sweet spot, [Kendra laughs] being a little bit scary, but still being fun. Like wink wink, like being like the Scooby Doo horror [Kendra grunts in agreement] that the author wanted this series to be. And I'd love how the main character says, I keep my desk there because it seems spooky that there's just a mysterious empty desk in the classroom. And he gets so upset when the teacher tries to put away an empty desk.

Jordan  31:23  
It's certainly good. Yeah. Have you guys ever seen the classic 80s movie Summer School? 

Kendra  31:30  
No. 

Jordan  31:30  
Imagine in your head an 80s movie about what if like the substitute tea what if like, you had to go to summer school, but your teacher was like cool? And that's the whole movie. That's literally what it is. And there's just like these two students in the class who are obsessed with 80s. Whole wick I mean it is the 80s they're obsessed [David laughs] with a low budget horror movie. So they just make a bunch of prosthetics and freak each other out. And like

David  31:53  
Yeah.

Jordan  31:53  
that's kind of the tone that I wish this series went with. Because that's kind of the character that Yotsuya is and when it's just Yatsuya fucking with people like that. Like it's, it's good. It's, [Kendra grunts in agreement] well, it's it's better. It's better at least and sometimes it is good.

David  32:09  
I think that's a really good segway though into talking about where it could have gone because it sounds like the series definitely had some nuggets of potential. 

Jordan  32:13  
Yeah. 

David  32:14  
Jordan, I think to build off of your idea. This should have been like the spiritual successor to Cool Shock B.T. like we talked about in the chibi. 

Jordan  32:19  
Yeah. 

David  32:20  
Where it's just the main character creating horror stories. And he's actually self fulfilling the stories by just fucking with people in really funny ways.

Jordan  32:28  
I liked the moment where like, he convinced Makoto that there was like this spooky girl who was like obsessed with horror, just like somewhere at the school and nobody knows what class she's in and nobody knows who it is. And like, everyone thinks she's kind of weird. And then at the end, he revealed it's revealed that like, actually, it's her and now since she's gone around asking everybody about this nonexistant girl, [David laughs] they all think that she's weird, loves horror, and is just kind of creepy.

David  32:59  
He's just gaslit the fuck out her.

Jordan  33:01  
Yeah, no, it's completely like now you are the girl. It's it's good. But like, I do feel like um this series just needed such a lowering of stakes. 

David  33:12  
Yeah. 

Jordan  33:12  
These stakes are so much higher than the series should have.

David  33:15  
Don't open with her murderer. 

Kendra  33:16  
Yeah.

Jordan  33:17  
To open with a serial child murderer.

David  33:20  
Gonna kill an eight year old. 

Jordan  33:22  
Yeah. And he's killed many before as they have established. It's like for like the first chapter feels like I'm reading fucking Johnny the Homicidal Maniac. 

David  33:31  
That's a throwback. 

Jordan  33:32  
You want to talk about a series that doesn't hold up? [Jordan laughs]

David  33:35  
Oh god.

Jordan  33:35  
That's significantly less fun to read when you're 30 than it is when you're 15. Well, there you go.

David  33:40  
God, I can't believe we're 30 now. Yeah, so Kendra, though what would you say? Because I see you you've written some ideas and what really strikes you is changes you would have made to the series to have made it successful.

Kendra  33:49  
I like they do kind of like having a rival horries, horror, story gatherer or something. And I guess just having the cops like be involved in maybe have them be like mad, like, Oh, you're investigating it wrong, or you're screwing up my mystery or kind of just play with that a little bit. [David grunts in agreement] But the cops are useless just like in real life.

Jordan  34:05  
Yeah. 

Kendra  34:06  
But leaning into that kind of go full Scooby Doo. At the end of Scooby Doo they like unmasked, it's like, oh, it was actually me and it's kind of like the opposite here where it's like, they kind of put the spiritual overtop of them. 

David  34:17  
Yeah. 

Kendra  34:17  
I don't know. Like have them turn somebody into an actual ghost or something like. [Jordan laughs]

Jordan  34:23  
Is turning someone into a ghost just a fun way to say to kill them? [Kendra laughs]

David  34:26  
Yeah, I was gonna say that's very murdery of you.

Jordan  34:28  
I'm not gonna kill you. I'm just gonna turn you into a ghost. Ooh.

Kendra  34:32  
Or like have the Hanako ghost like-

Jordan  34:34  
Can I say every time you say Hanako ghost I think you're saying Hanukkah ghost. [Jordan and Kendra laugh]

David  34:37  
I was thinking that too. I don't know Kendra. If you celebrate Hanukkah, 

Kendra  34:42  
No. Yes, just have a Hanukkah ghost in here. That's what I'll say.

Jordan  34:46  
Like a Hanukkah ghost.

David  34:48  
We do have a new series by the Golem Hearts guy [Jordan laughs] most Jewish manga we ever read. So maybe. 

Jordan  34:52  
Next to Red Sprite. [Jordan laughs]

David  34:54  
Yes, that's true. And I think that just like as a wrapper for this series, it would have been cool if he was literally just like a bat like a writer. and he's like faking and like all the flashbacks are him like fucking with people and then there's like some meta narrative where maybe like one of his cases came back and like actually it was real. [Kendra grunts in agreement] You see adult uh Yotsuya actually like dealing with the fallout of how he was fucking with people and how it turned out like yeah this is like the zombie island you know the best Scooby Doo movie of his life were like this actually was like a real like ghosts or some shit. He's got to figure it out. [Kendra grunts in agreement]

Jordan  35:23  
Can I just say that movie that Scooby Doo movie that pissed me off. 

David  35:26  
What? 

Jordan  35:27  
When it when it was revealed that like, Oh, these are real monsters. I was like, Shut up. You're Scooby Doo. That's your whole point. This is fucking shark jump mode.

David  35:34  
Dude, Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated where they had to deal with Lovecraftian horrors was really fucking good.

Jordan  35:41  
Mystery Inc was like the good one recently, right?

David  35:43  
Mystery Inc was Digimon Tamers of Scooby Doo.

Jingle  35:46  
It was [Kendra grunts in agreement] Yeah, yeah.

David  35:47  
That's a great take actually.

Jordan  35:49  
I agree. [David and Jordan laugh]

Kendra  35:51  
But speaking of like other things, I guess other series, I kind of wish they'd gone to the Yu Yu Hakusho route of having like, oh, you get to see former detectives like see a former story gather who like graduated? And it's like, oh, this is like he's like actually older. And it's like, this is like middle aged woman who used to like work for him or something. And it's like, wait, what? Like, I don't know. Have fun with it.

Jordan  36:09  
What if Yatsuya just have like a ton of weird brothers. [Jordan and Kendra laugh] And then that could be like, No, you don't get it. It's not that I have been here 20 years. It's that me and my brothers all look almost identical.

Kendra  36:22  
Ichi Yotsuya, Niyotsuya. Like kind kinda, they have them be the Vinsmokes. Give them, number them.

Jordan  36:27  
Yeah, exactly. 

David  36:29  
What if he actually was like a 40 year old man that just looked like he was like 15 and at the end he actually that's the cops arrest him because he was like a pedophile? [Jordan and Kendra laugh]

Jordan  36:38  
Dude, I'm not convinced that isn't what happened in this series.

David  36:41  
And that's the last shot is him being pressed against the cop car with like someone like putting like a fuckin blanket over the main female character and giving her some dango 

Jordan  36:50  
Yeah, yeah yeah. 

David  36:52  
Jordan like was processing all that and he like he like polite laughed, and he was actually that's actually funny. And then he laughed for real during.

Jordan  36:59  
Yeah. Like, you ever see that Perry Bible Fellowship comic where uh this like, Ocean King or whatever approaches this young boy he's like, come with me. And then the next panel is just that the cops arresting him.

David  37:11  
Fucking love that comic series. 

Jordan  37:13  
That's a great comic. 

David  37:14  
Alright. Uh, um I feel like on that note, it sounds like we wanna start talking about things that are not this manga. So no, we do uh get into miscellaneous thoughts. So Jordan though now that we're talking about miscellaneous things, please. What are some of your miscellaneous thoughts about the series?

Jordan  37:30  
What the fuck is Yatsuya's deal? [Kendra laughs]

David  37:33  
We just said he's clearly a 40 year old pedophile. [Jordan laughs] Things happen in a middle school.

Jordan  37:38  
Is there like another way to interpret it though? Like, that's what it really seems like it is.

David  37:42  
Why didn't they make him like six and a half feet tall?

Jordan  37:45  
It is really possible that Yotsuya is just canonically a ghost, but they never bring it up. Like at the end. There's this weird moment where they're all in high school. And he's in high school too. So they're like, Oh, you made it to high school. He's like, No, I didn't graduate. But it's like, wait, what? What are you doing here? [Kendra laughs] What? Why are you here? What what does that mean in this context? You didn't graduate [Kendra laughs] and you're in high school right now? Are you just trespassing? Because he might be?

David  38:11  
It's so strange.

Kendra  38:13  
This is more of a What should have gone but I wish she'd like it could be cool. It's like she became Yotsuya instead, she became the horror person.

Jordan  38:21  
That's how you end a horror story.

Kendra  38:22  
Yeah. 

David  38:23  
Could have been he was eighth grader and she was like a sixth grader. And then he graduates and then the last epilogue has her carrying on the legacy now.

Jordan  38:30  
Yeah. 

Kendra  38:30  
He's not even her senpai. They're in the same grade.

Jordan  38:33  
We don't know how old he is, they never say. They imply that he's older than everybody else. And they imply that he's been in middle school for like, I don't know, 10 or 20 years. 

David  38:44  
He keeps failing English class. That's why he hates the English teacher. Oh, remember the English teacher was like a huge bitch.

Jordan  38:50  
David he just he literally just doesn't show up to class.

Kendra  38:53  
He teaches English, not math or something.

David  38:55  
Yeah, she bullied that kid to asking [Jordan laughs] her for help. [Kendra sighs]

Jordan  39:00  
I love the moment where it's like she she gets better and they're like, yeah, so apparently some of the kids have really got have been trying to get her to slap them now?

David  39:09  
It's like that scene from Parks and Rec When Aubrey Plaza slaps Chris Pratt. And then he goes he's like, Yo, is it weird I have a boner right now? And she just goes [Kendra laughs] ew and walks away. [Jordan and Kendra laugh]

Jordan  39:21  
I also want to point out there was a moment where like, and these are these are middle schoolers. By the way, this kid starts cutting off the like girl's hair, and then Makoto's like we all know you have a hair fetish but like chill which is just like a wild thing to say in [Kendra laughs] middle school I feel.

David  39:38  
Yeah just imagine though. Remember how in the chibi we said the teacher that was a serial killer reminds us of Kira? 

Jordan  39:43  
Yeah. 

David  39:43  
And it's just Kira being like dude you gotta chill have your fetish, man. [Kendra grunts in agreement] [Jordan laughs] It's just got a picture of Mona Lisa in the background. [Jordan laughs] Okay, so-

Kendra  39:52  
Really quick I guess like all the streets are nine All your base are belong to us gave gave me that vibe.

David  39:58  
That's the level of translation was fucking all your base.

Kendra  40:01  
Yes, but then it like the series talks about can you use language to kill someone. It's like you're using it to kill this series? Because it's hard to read.

Jordan  40:09  
My favorite misspelling was where Yotsuya was like Makoto, Let's cooperate. 

Kendra  40:15  
What?

Jordan  40:15  
Makoto we must become an LLC in order to stop [David laughs] the ghosts. [Kendra laughs]

David  40:21  
That's actually the plot of Trillionaire Games. So watch your mouth. 

Jordan  40:24  
Okay, [Kendra grunts in agreement] 

David  40:26  
The other manga by the doctor stone guy. 

Jordan  40:28  
Oh, right. 

David  40:29  
And remember how I joked how it looked like it was drawn by like someone who was an artist in the 90s. I found that the artist for Trillionaire Game is legitimately 65 years old.

Jordan  40:37  
Oh, that's awesome. I remember reading like a couple pages of that being interested. I gotta go back and read more. 

David  40:43  
Yeah, maybe we'll do a rec ep on it. 

Jordan  40:44  
Yeah. 

David  40:45  
But yeah, and then there's the terrible implication of a 13 year old having a 41 year old grandma. 

Kendra  40:51  
Yeah. 

Jordan  40:52  
Yeah. 

David  40:52  
That was really fucked up. 

Jordan  40:54  
Was she 41 when she died? Seemed like. 

Kendra  40:57  
No. 

David  40:58  
She was 13 when she died, and it's 28 years later. So best case scenario, his grandma would have been 41 years old having a 12 year old grandson. 

Jordan  41:06  
But if the girl who died when she was 13.

Kendra  41:09  
Yes, you'd have to be like a teen mom. Basically. 

David  41:11  
Yeah. 

Jordan  41:12  
See, that's why I think the translation where it says that she's the aunt makes like 10 times more sense, because I was trying to figure this out. Like how did this 13 year old girl who killed herself when she was a teenager have a grandson? 

David  41:25  
The aunt makes so much more sense. 

Jordan  41:27  
Makes so much more sense.

Kendra  41:29  
But it's still like uh I dunno, again, like bother Viz or like at Seven Seas I think is another one get them to translate this one.

David  41:36  
Alright, we're gonna ring up Steven Paul and be like [Kendra gasps] how much to translate this series. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  41:40  
Yeah. 

David  41:41  
I'm actually surprised that like the Haikyuu!! community hasn't tried to like properly translate this.

Kendra  41:46  
I know.

Jordan  41:46  
Maybe they tried it. They just hate it when they read it.

David  41:49  
No, they just don't want people to know about this series. But yeah, and the main thing I was thinking about is this feels like a fake manga that was created for Bakuman, [Jordan laughs] because this is the perfect level of flaw in art style where could have seen this being like his idea and this is like the series they make that ran for 18 chapters and failed and they're like, how do we make a good series?  [Kendra grunts in agreement] Because it has about that level of thought put into it. 

Jordan  42:12  
It's one of those things where I feel like um I can't tell if the author thought too hard about it or not hard enough. It's one of the two.

David  42:21  
It's really the Ben Shapiro paradox. [Jordan and Kendra laugh] So anyway, let's go to Final Verdict. 

Kendra  42:29  
Okeydoke. 

David  42:29  
So Kendra, please do us the honor of or actually I'm so sorry. Uh you were gonna start but that's a lie cuz I'm gonna start by reading off the six word summaries. 

Kendra  42:36  
Yeah. 

David  42:36  
Now we'll start by reading some community ones. Not a ton this week because it's if you can't tell by the tone our community did not like this series [Kendra laughs] and they did not want to read it. [Jordan laughs] So first of all from T Wolfwood who is listening to us right now.

Jordan  42:49  
Wait, I'm sorry. I fucking love Tucker's. But keep going with T Wolfwood.

David  42:53  
Tucker is very based.

Kendra  42:54  
Or like reading I feel like it would infect my phone like [Jordan laughs] reading it would cause viruses.

Jordan  42:58  
Yeah, yeah, that did happen to me.

David  43:01  
Adblocker. [David kisses] Love them. Anyway. T Wolfwood said I got Bokke-San flashbacks help me. I know. I was thinking that the whole time brother. [Jordan sighs] [Kendra giggles] Adam wrote the real horror was reading this and Tucker said What an ugly has unscary Duwang. [Kendra laughs] Uh so Kendra, you are in the same thoughts basically.

Kendra  43:17  
Yeah.

David  43:17  
So this was definitely a Duwang translation. 

Kendra  43:19  
Yes. [Jordan laughs]

David  43:21  
Duwang is a reference to a very bad Part Four JoJo translation which they translated the name of the town, which is called Morioh as Duwang and there's literally a scene of Kira staring out into space and he's like enjoying the day saying, Ah, What up beautiful Duwang. [Jordan laughs] That's the main villain of the series. 

Jordan  43:40  
Yeah.

David  43:41  
But Kendra, what was your six word summary?

Kendra  43:42  
Oh, I had a few uh but like the horror to volleyball pipeline TM. 

Jordan  43:47  
That's pretty good. 

Kendra  43:48  
I think I'm counting TM as a word. [Kendra laughs]

David  43:50  
That's we've done worse.

Kendra  43:51  
I'd like how to not write horror featuring Scooby Doo cuz I just really liked the Scooby Doo idea. So I just went with it. And also [Jordan grunts in agreement] please read Haikyuu!! instead of this. 

Jordan  43:59  
Hey, there is a dog in this. 

David  44:01  
There was. 

Kendra  44:01  
Yes so just read Haikyuu!! instead.

David  44:04  
Very good. How about you Jordan?

Jingle  44:05  
Characters go insane so do you.

David  44:08  
I did and I hope you guys like this mine because I rewrote it a bunch to get try and get the best wording and I said it's half spoopy but all poopy. [Jordan and Kendra laugh] Think that's a strong contender for best six word summary. 

Jordan  44:21  
It's pretty good one. [Kendra laughs] 

David  44:23  
All right so I think we can all agree this was a flop. Does anyone disagree? 

Jordan  44:27  
Kendra actually I don't know. 

Kendra  44:28  
Oh.

David  44:30  
Oh fuck, I forgot about Kendra Yeah.

Jingle  44:32  
Yeah, yeah, what the fuck David? God. 

David  44:34  
God I'm so terrible.

Kendra  44:35  
How dare you? 

David  44:36  
It's cause Kendra's not Jewish. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  44:37  
Oh, I see. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  44:40  
I don't have the Hanukkah ghost. I admit it.

David  44:42  
Yeah, no Hanukkah ghost sorry.

Jingle  44:44  
We are possessed by it every [Kendra laughs] December and sometimes November.

David  44:48  
Once in September, that was weird. Anyway. [David and Kendra laugh] So Kendra, Kendra, is this a flop or not?

Kendra  44:54  
Oh, I feel like it's almost a flop but I think I I still like it. I think it's cool. The idea of having like oh, it Oh, it told seven stories and it kind of like fits makes me think it's not a flop because I think like Furadate kind of got across what he wanted to do. I think it's not a flop I liked it but I know other people don't I accept it. [Kendra gasps]

Jordan  45:11  
Okay real quick I'm sorry this is totally out of uh out of the topic but the fucking seven wonders what the fuck was that I was so confused they mentioned it they don't mention it like ever they say once or twice and never explained it until like literally the last chapter when they add an eighth wonder. I was very confused. Okay, moving on. Sorry.

Kendra  45:29  
I think I see that in a few other series. That's kind of like seven is just like a scary number. So they like it and like telling horror stories is kind of like a tradition or something. So it's like, yeah.

Jordan  45:39  
This is a thing that if I was Japanese, I wouldn't be as confused about okay, like I can accept that.

Kendra  45:44  
But it could've leaned into that a little bit more like I think I could have explained it in series even would have been better.

Jordan  45:49  
A translation [David laughs] note.

Kendra  45:50  
Yeah.

Jordan  45:51  
Just get a few of those, you know, probably could have done that.

David  45:54  
Translation did not even try. 

Jordan  45:56  
Yeah.

Kendra  45:56  
The translation was just like, oh, this is a scary face. And I was like thanks translator I never would have guessed

Jordan  46:01  
Translation note shit I gotta pick up my lawn my uh my dry cleaning in like five minutes. I [Kendra grunts in agreement] don't time for this fine.

David  46:08  
No translation hungry? Bite into a snicker. [David Jordan and Kendra laugh] I think this podcast is the most enjoyment I got out of reading the series. 

Jordan  46:18  
Yes. 

David  46:20  
So Kendra, though, [Kendra grunts] ultimately, what was your verdict?

Kendra  46:23  
It's a flop but I'm in denial that it's a flop.

Jingle  46:25  
I understand.

David  46:26  
Per your six-word summary, I assume he would say read Haikyuu!! instead,

Kendra  46:29  
Yes read Haikyuu!! instead cause it's really it has like a few like scary faces do like intensity. And then the other one I would recommend is something that does like the Seven Wonders as well. Toilet Bound Hanako-kun so there's that name again. Hanako. 

David  46:42  
I've heard of that. 

Kendra  46:43  
But it's kind of cool. It's very cutesy style. But then it goes like, I guess I I'm a wimp for horror but I still find it scary. I think other people do that it's kind of like unsettling. There's like a girl who like makes wishes of the ghost and then like the ghost is scary. And like the ghost wants to go to the moon. It's weird. [Jordan and Kendra giggles]

David  47:02  
I like it. How about you, Jordan? What would you recommend?

Jordan  47:05  
This is a certified flop first of all. [Kendra laughs] I mean-

David  47:08  
No doubt.

Jingle  47:08  
Certified? Oh my God.

David  47:10  
Jordan, what would you say check out instead?

Jordan  47:12  
Persona Two. [Kendra grunts] And I'm talking about the one where you fight Hitler. That's right. 

David  47:16  
Yeah. [Kendra laughs] I remember that one. 

Jordan  47:18  
Oh, yeah because the premise of that game is that, um, by spreading rumors, the rumor that you spread becomes real, which I think is a awesome premise that justifies so much stuff. And it's also kind of similar to what this series is kind of trying to do, except obviously more supernatural. [David grunts in agreement] And you know, the Persona games are just cool.

David  47:41  
They are [Kendra grunts in agreement]  I thought you were gonna say something like be like there's a little game called Halo. [Jordan and Kendra laugh]

Jordan  47:48  
You know what, instead of reading uh Kiben Gakuha play this game called Destiny. [David gasps]

David  47:55  
Shut up. Anyway, [Jordan laughs] my recommendation is I'm actually going to recommend a PG 13 horror movie. So Jordan, I would say guess but I assume you read my notes so I guess you know.

Jingle  48:04  
Oh, I see it. Yeah.

David  48:05  
Yeah, so I'm going to recommend Drag Me To Hell, which is by Sam Raimi, who is probably one of the masters of PG 13 horror, 

Jordan  48:11  
Hell yeah.

David  48:11  
And I really want to say it definitely has the best horror movie ending I've ever seen in my entire life. [Kendra grunts in agreement] 

Jordan  48:16  
Yeah, it's amazing. [Jordan laughs]

David  48:17  
Yeah so that's a strong contender for a movie night maybe that's what we'll do uh Drag Me To Hell versus Shaun of the Dead for our October Movie Night.

Jordan  48:23  
I mean, I would do Drag Me To Hell versus Evil Dead.

David  48:26  
It's a good choice to we'll figure it out.

Jingle  48:27  
By the way, this is also a place to recommend Evil Dead too I highly recommend.[Kendra grunts in agreement] 

David  48:33  
It's the best manga Evil Dead. 

Jordan  48:35  
Evil Dead's my favorite manga yeah.

David  48:36  
Yes. Oh, Ash-kun. Why won't you notice me? 

Jordan  48:39  
Ash senpai.

David  48:40  
Ash senpai cut me with your chainsaw Oh, he was the real Chainsawman. [Kendra grunts in agreement] 

Jordan  48:44  
I think that's a potential fan art that's out there.

David  48:47  
Yeah. [Kendra grunts in agreement] Oh, speaking of they took out the Chainsawman cameo out of the My Hero Academia anime.

Jordan  48:52  
That sucks.

Kendra  48:53  
Awe.

David  48:53  
I'm so pissed when I saw that. They changed into a bone saw man.

Jingle  48:58  
Bone saw is ready. Speaking of Sam Raimi. [David snorts]

David  49:02  
Yeah, I'm so excited that he's directing the new Doctor Strange movie. 

Jordan  49:05  
Oh, that's awesome. [Kendra grunts in agreement]  

David  49:06  
Yeah, that was actually like the one of the like, I think universally liked changes in production were so originally Dr. Strange The Multiverse of Madness was going to have the same director as the first one and then they had like a disagreement, and then they replaced him with Sam Raimi and literally everyone was like, okay, yeah, I'm completely fine with this. That's a great change. [David laughs]

Jordan  49:22  
I mean, not only is he has he made some great movies, he's all he was also the first guy to make like, good superhero movies again.

David  49:31  
Any way yeah, so this was dogshit my favorite thing while reading it was the fact that they is a piece of art from Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer, which is a really really good manga that not enough people read. That gave me a smile when I saw that as one of the scanlation like arts. [Kendra grunts in agreement] Uh, But yeah, and then speaking of shouting things out. Why don't we actually go to shout outs where we can hear a bit more about what Kendra is up to when she's not reading terrible mega and recording with us. [Kendra gasps]

Jordan  49:54  
Ooh. [Jordan laughs] [Kendra sighs]

David  49:55  
 So ready three two-

Kendra  49:57  
Did we miss the best is this the best or worse series we compare it to other ones.

David  50:00  
Oh fuck Damn it. You're right we got to go back in. [Jordan laughs] 

Jordan  50:04  
We're going back. 

David  50:06  
So Jordan though. It's been a long time since we had a serious contender. So Jordan though is this worse than Build King? 

Jordan  50:11  
No. 

David  50:12  
No, okay. All right so now a shout out.

Jordan  50:14  
Here's the thing this series at the end of the day has moments that I enjoy and has characters that I like and are just misused. [Kendra grunts in agreement] Build King doesn't have any characters that I really ever want to see again except maybe said maybe the vampire dad which he's not really a main character so.

Kendra  50:30  
I kind of liked it. So I'm gonna compare it to I think a good comparison is uh Time Paradox Ghost Writer because both they both couldn't like

Jordan  50:36  
Whoa. [Jordan says whoa a lot for the next few seconds]

Kendra  50:36  
 Kind of end where they want to I did not like that series. I'm gonna talk.

Jordan  50:40  
Whoa.

David  50:40  
Whoa. No, no, no, we're not doing that. 

Jordan  50:43  
No, nope, we ain't do no it's all good. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  50:46  
But I think they both kind of do that thing where like, oh, we told a story we need to tell an end end and well, this one it doesn't like it kind of like pulls it out its ass a little bit. But also it doesn't have a huge story breaking. What do you call it?

Jordan  50:57  
I would argue it doesn't have a story. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  51:00  
Alright okay, I will not talk about Time Paradox Ghost Writer, I just [Jordan laughs] didn't like it. We'll move on. Sorry.

Jordan  51:06  
So Kendra's like, is this the best series you read? Na. [Kendra says something indistinguishable] No, guys the best series you've read sucks. [Jordan laughs]

David  51:13  
Yeah. Wow. 

Kendra  51:14  
Sorry.

David  51:14  
Fucking nuclear hot take.

Jordan  51:17  
That rules. Thank you Kendra.

Kendra  51:19  
I don't care Go big or go home.

Jordan  51:21  
Kendra's like this is better than Chainsawman.

David  51:24  
Oh my god.

Kendra  51:25  
No. Chainsawman is better. Lots of stuff was better. I just don't like Time Paradox.

Jordan  51:29  
That's fine. Yeah. 

David  51:30  
It's an acquired taste. 

Jordan  51:32  
Acquired taste that we we acquired immediately after reading it the first time. Yeah.

David  51:38  
What other series do we like on the show that you didn't like? How did you feel about Cop and Dolphin? 

Kendra  51:42  
Oh, you like that one?

Jingle  51:43  
Hard Boiled Cop and Dolphin. Yeah.

David  51:46  
How about um Moroking.

Kendra  51:47  
I like Moroking. I guess I don't read all of it either. But I like that one.

Jordan  51:50  
I mean, keep in mind we uh we only read manga that got that flop. [Kendra laughs] There is a ceiling of quality, you know. [Jordan laughs]

David  51:57  
Anyway, let's go to Shout Outs so we can talk about other things that aren't the series. Props to Jordan for making the opening and ending theme being a great co host and helping with editing.

Jordan  52:06  
Hey, hey, hey, hey, you're welcome. 

David  52:08  
Oh, thanks. [Jordan laughs] Props to Mer Liel for the awesome cover art. You can find her online at liel_mer and Nigel for being our generous art benefactor. Thanks to Tucker for assistance with pronounciation translation and other miscellaneous research. Thanks to Nicole for helping with social media Nicole's just taking a bit of a leave of absence we wish her the best still a dear friend, we're always here for you support no matter what and uh we look forward to whenever you get a chance. So on that note, if anyone wants to help us with social media stuff in particular Tik Toc because I am to not Zoomer to understand it, we are looking for someone that can hopefully fill out uh the very large shoes she left she was really a gem and I still consider a very dear friend and I look forward to next time I get to see you once Omicron isn't as much of a concern.

Jingle  52:48  
Nicole is wonderful, Nicole, we love you. And we just hope things get better for you.

David  52:54  
I also want to give thanks to Luke for being our community producer. We had a super awesome book club last month where we read Secret Wars. We had I think 14 people.

Jordan  53:02  
Kicked ass. 

David  53:02  
It was amazing. We already have 11 people signed up for the next one. It's an extra special one where the author of the book Weeaboo former guests from our Red Hood episode is going to be in so we're actually going to be getting to talk to the creator of the comic. So we're glad we finally got that to happen. We are very close to having K. C. do it. But then he said I have too much anxiety to show up to something like this.

Jingle  53:22  
K. C. Green by the way. That's who David is talking about when he says K. C., our buddy K. C. Yeah.

David  53:28  
Yeah, sorry, K. C. Green had too much anxiety to show up but he did respond to our email, which is pretty rad.

Jingle  53:32  
We intimidated him a lot and I get it.

David  53:34  
I also want to give a big hand out to T Root OzyRat and T Wolfwood for being our awesome transcription volunteers. This has been something we've been trying to do forever. But just to be honest, we hadn't had the time and they just jumped on it said yeah, we'll write it down. And we're really excited is this going to help make episodes and podcasts much more accessible, I can't promise when this one's transcript. My goal is to hopefully be in two weeks, but of course they are volunteers so I want to be respectful of the time they have but we definitely will prioritize episodes as they come out or for our current focus being we're going to do main episodes first, then circle back and do the Chibis and then we'll circle back into the Patreon stuff just because we know what the main the most important episodes I have transcripts are for and that will be showing up on our new website which depending on if you hear this audio means that that new website is out Jordan has done a fantastic job if not still work in progress want to make it perfect, but that is where the transcripts are going to live. And we will definitely talk about it in the next episode when it's out with all the new bells and whistles that Jordans been spending so much time on.

Jordan  54:28  
Yeah, seriously guys, though, thank you so much for the work that you've done on and it means a lot to us and hey hey hey, Trafalgar Wolfwood I see you there? Thank you. The way that you write T Wolfwood in the notes makes me think his name is Two Wolfwood like [David laughs] It's like t w o like Two Wolfwood. So is there a One Wolfwood?

David  54:48  
It's Two Wolf Two Furious.

Jordan  54:50  
Two Wolf too fuck Two Fury Two Wolf Two Woody.

David  54:53  
He's gonna change his name in the discord to that. Okay, so way, Jordan, is there anything else on your end you want to say?

Jingle  54:59  
I got a couple things first of all, David, thank you so much for editing this episode. I'm sure that uh I'm sure that you could cut out all the things that Kendra said that would get her cancelled. So thank you for that. [Kendra gasps]

David  55:11  
Yeah.

Kendra  55:11  
Oh god.

Jordan  55:12  
And Kendra went on a long rant everybody just like im imagine like the worst thing she could have said that's probably what she said. 

Kendra  55:18  
It's all true. [Jordan laughs]

Jordan  55:19  
It's all true. Yeah. My second one is I would like to throw a shout out to my second hidden podcast. Ooh. [David laughs] Mission Ignition. 

Kendra  55:29  
Oh. 

Jordan  55:29  
Every period of time that it takes for us to put out an episode whatever we uh talk about a new episode a new episode we talked about the next episode of a series that nobody except me ever saw from the 90s called Vanpires it fucking sucks not that not our show. That show sucks. Our show's good. We're putting out some new stuff the new episode we put out has Audrey who was a previous guest on this show. 

David  55:55  
Oh, Audrey's, great. 

Jordan  55:56  
Check it out. Find us on Twitter @bethevee which is at b e t h e v e e and you can find us by looking at Mission Ignition on any podcatcher you use. So yeah.

David  56:09  
Nice. And then also though, I want to say be sure to join the Shonen Flop discord, come hang out with us and talk about anime, games or whatever else is on your mind. We also have a book club and do regular movie nights we recently saw Dredd 3d and next month we're going to see The Thing. 

Jordan  56:21  
Fucking love Dredd 3D, yeah. 

David  56:22  
So we have a really awesome group of movies that we've been watching. You can find a link to it in the show notes. And if you've been enjoying the podcast and want to help us keep going consider subscribing to our Patreon. We have a ton of awesome perks ranging from exclusive mini episodes, deleted scenes and you can even help us pick what series we're going to cover next. You can find us at patreon.com/shonenflop and I want to give a shout out to our patrons. So first of all, I want to give a shout out to our chainsaw man patrons which are Pterodactyl Ghost and T Wolfwood who is listening right now, as always, I think we've given him like five shout outs when we'll find out in the transcriptions how many times T Wolfwood shows up in it now that we have [Jordan laughs] those. And then moving on down I want to give a shout out to the king of the forest Albie, Gabe Landau, Maji Knights, Mark, M Sivulich, Marty, Overrated Apples, ScarletMyrmidon, Sean McDreamy, THEBBKINGBBTHE,

Jordan  57:08  
it's the Kings it's the kings of the forest [David laughs] and their friend Chainsawman Okay. Whoo! Yeah. Whoo-oo-oo. 

David  57:17  
And know if you're not ready for a regular commitment, consider buying some merch. We have a ton of awesome designs including the much requested Gomez moon and Mashle punching Harry Potter shirts along with cover from this episode and a portion of the proceeds go back to the original artists to boot. No worries if you can't help the show out financially if you could like, rate, review or share our show it really helps us a ton. Spotify introduced reviews so if you have already done so but you haven't done on Spotify, it would mean a ton to us. We have 300 iTunes reviews, which is awesome. So if we could get like 100 Spotify reviews that was super duper be great too. And you can find us on Twitter @ShonenFlopCast or our website shonenflop.com or on Spotify, iTunes, YouTube or wherever else you get your podcast. But enough about us Kendra, thank you so much for being on the show. Where can they find all the amazing things you do?

Jordan  58:00  
Thank you so much, yeah.

Kendra  58:01  
Thank you for having me on. You can find me on Twitter at sniperofmyheart and I have two podcasts the My Hero Academia podcast at MHAPod and the Haikyuu!! podcast The View From the Top where we talk about Haikyuu!!  @haikyupod but Haikyuu!!'s over now so we haven't really done new episodes but when the anime comes back maybe but check it out. 

Jordan  58:17  
Sniper of the heart. 

Kendra  58:19  
Yes that's that's why I picked it. I just, I just love Usopp. He snipes your heart. [Jordan and Kendra laugh] But I think Colton has sniper three two six. And I always think he's me. But he's not. [Jordan giggles]

David  58:31  
Oh, yeah, I keep seeing that guy. [David chuckles] So though speaking of other people, I want to give some shout outs first of all I want to give a shout out to Thinking Critically it's a D20 podcast run by a really awesome British guy, not the one I usually talk about that's awesome. I was on episode all talking about how do you make really interesting magic items and balance that out? You can find them at thinkingcritically.co.uk/items for my episode, I also am going to play a promo for a friend of the show Kamijace where he has a brand new game show where you can win real money that's exciting so have me on because I love money. [Jordan laughs]

Kamijace  59:03  
Hello, hello, it's Jase, host of the Weekly Cool Down podcast and now host of a new gaming trivia podcast called The Greatest Gaming Game Show ever I pit two guests against one another for my amusement and make them answer gaming questions for real money. The winner takes their earnings and the loser must donate their's. It's fun mostly for me and it can be fun for you the listener. Follow the show on Twitter @GGGameshow and be sure to listen to The Greatest Gaming Game Show Ever wherever you get your podcasts.

Jingle  59:29  
Greatest Gaming Game Show Ever. [Record stop]

David  59:32  
I also want to give a shout out to myself. So for those who don't know, I actually made a joke manga pitch that got picked up so I actually wrote a script for a manga called I'm Single Because My Grandmother is a Two Meter Tall Former Professional Basketball Player. It's all about a girl not being able to find love because she keeps getting cock blocked by her massive basketball playing grandma. [Jordan laughs] And so we just entered that into a manga contest. So find a link in the description below if we can get 100 people to check it out, we can actually have a chance of really getting a place and who knows, maybe I'll end up [David gasps] I'll end up becoming a professional manga writer writing basketball grandma. [Jordan laughs]

Kendra  1:00:10  
Or, will you cover it if it's a flop?

David  1:00:13  
Oh, absolutely.

Jingle  1:00:14  
Kendra, we'll have you back on and then David won't be allowed back on the show. [Kendra laughs]

David  1:00:19  
For $500 on Patreon, we'll do a shonen flop episode on David's manga he wrote, and he won't be on that.

Kendra  1:00:24  
I want to read it so I hope it gets done. Like that sounds really cool.

David  1:00:27  
I will put the link to it once it is. [Kendra grunts in agreement] It's actually was translated into Japanese which is crazy.

Kendra  1:00:32  
What?

Jordan  1:00:33  
What?

Kendra  1:00:33  
I mean.

Jordan  1:00:34  
I didn't know this.

David  1:00:35  
Yeah, it's a Japanese contest. It's a legit real deal contest in Japan.

Jordan  1:00:39  
Oh my God. 

Kendra  1:00:40  
What did you do the art as well, it's kind of like you write the text of it and they like do the idea.

David  1:00:43  
So I pitched the idea. And then I wrote the script, and then I helped refine the actual art.

Kendra  1:00:48  
Oh.

David  1:00:49  
And then they translate as a script into Japanese for the final comic. So I actually-

Kendra  1:00:52  
That's so cool.

David  1:00:52  
Haven't seen the comic in English. 

Okay. You should tell them like sneak sneak in a Snickers or something. [Jordan laughs]

There is actually a hidden Gomez. 

Kendra  1:01:00  
Oh, yay.

Jordan  1:01:01  
Oh good, good, good.

David  1:01:01  
One of my favorite scenes is great. There's like the grandma's knitting and you see her in the background. And there's actually she's knitting socks with uh with the Jordan logo on it. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  1:01:10  
Oh, the Air Jordan logo?

David  1:01:11  
Just so, yeah, so it was a great time. I had a lot of fun. So I actually also want to give a shout out to tapirclip who was the one who drew it and translate it [Kendra grunts] and they did an awesome job it is really fun collaborating with them. So hopefully it'll go somewhere, but we'll see. If not, we'll have the most meta shonen flop episode of all time. [Kendra laughs]

Jordan  1:01:28  
Pretty much.

David  1:01:30  
But on that note, let's go to sign off. This has been David. 

Jordan  1:01:34  
This has been Jordan. 

Kendra  1:01:35  
This has been Kendra. 

David  1:01:36  
And you've been listening to Shonen Flop.

Jordan  1:01:39  
Keep on flopping floppers. 

David  1:01:40  
Yeah. 

Jordan  1:01:41  
Yeah.

Kendra  1:01:42  
Floppa floppa floppa, I just imagine Magikarp, sorry. 

David  1:01:44  
Oh god.

Jordan  1:01:45  
Flop, flop, flop, flop. [Outro Music] [Transcribed by Trafalgar Wolfwood]

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