#93 The Shonen Flop Awards 2023 (The Floppies)

[00:00:00] Jordyn, can you believe it is the 9th annual Shonen Floppa Wars aka the Floppies?

[00:00:11] Wow the 9th I can't believe we did this for 9 years David.

[00:00:15] Oh my god.

[00:00:17] Well we didn't do it for the first 6 years of the show.

[00:00:20] Haha.

[00:00:21] Yeah that's true.

[00:00:22] I do this for 15 fucking years.

[00:00:25] Nah I mean it's like.

[00:00:26] I know it's almost as old as my youngest son. to decide who gets a second chance. Yes, exactly. If you win a positive award, you will come back and are guaranteed to not get a flop. Even if your manga sucks, it will go on for a hundred chapters. At minimum. Minimum. And so the name of the game is we'll be reading off the award. Jordan and I will both reading off our three nominees.

[00:01:41] There may be some overlap, but ultimately we will decide between 100's first chapter and was surprised when it got better. Nano hazard, I didn't really dislike the first chapter, just didn't blow me away. So I'm going to say Fabricant 100 because that wound up being like a pretty good series.

[00:03:01] I kind of like itchigoki because it was one of the fucking most dog shit things and then

[00:03:04] by the end we are kind of like this to shit the bit. Yeah, the thing about to kick a Ryu Se though, I was like, this is gonna rule. This kicks ass. This is amazing for the first six chapters. And then it just sucks. Yeah, I think we gotta give it to To Kick.

[00:04:20] Yeah.

[00:04:21] The winner for biggest drop in quality is To Kick a Ryu Se.

[00:04:25] What is this point?

[00:04:26] What a disappointment.

[00:04:27] What a fucking disappointment. I'm in a mine where also cocko I had Sarah Warren from a market of distortion and a corearoo from Tokyo demon bride story I complete for God's Sarah Warren and I was actually re listening to that episode and early oh yeah she's fucking awesome yeah I totally forgot the Sarah Warren existed yeah oh my god she fucking sounds like a politician Sarah Warren does kind of rule I think Sarah

[00:05:41] Warren was probably the best villain of any mongrel we read this year yeah but

[00:05:45] I mean the thing about cocko is that I accept the award for the best non-fictional talent, and why not? Why shouldn't I win? I've not died, abandoned my children to go adventuring, turned out to secretly be the villain,

[00:07:03] abandoned my principles because of the horrors of war,

[00:07:05] become possessed by a lich, then killed because of my sick swords, from stars though is truly he was so fucking support over his son yeah you so rarely there's like no notes to his support of this but the thing is I hadn't considered 100 now that I am considering 100 I'm gonna say 100 because 100 was just the better character fair enough you're a it she also shows up more than it's your chapters but is she a good parent I don't

[00:08:20] know cuz she does want to kill her son you know what I'm gonna give it to the

[00:08:24] dad from stars actually okay cuz like 100 was the best character out of this in terms of like quality, but like the creativity. Cyber Grandpa G, I feel like has much more variety. You know, I guess that's fair. So it's, you would value the creative you start rather than true technical skill. Well, they both have true technical skill. It's like, like I don't know. I just think, I think you say from like an objective

[00:09:40] standpoint is better drawn than cyber grandpa.

[00:09:42] In terms of the individual quality of each panel.

[00:09:45] Oof.

[00:09:46] I'm not sure, but I mean, I'm down to give it

[00:09:48] to the Keg. Yeah, and how did the offer continually fuck our proportions in the one genre?

[00:11:01] It actually really really has to matter because they can't do it David

[00:11:04] And they made a bad decision by doing a boxing manga. Alright, we'll give it to him. Oh man, yeah, he didn't go to jail. You piece of fluffy shit not a porno. Oh man, this one was tough. I kind of want to give it to a Rocky's Dr. Bone because the not a porno is just so funny to me.

[00:13:41] Well, thank you.

[00:13:43] And I want to thank you words for there being six of them.

[00:13:46] Yes.

[00:14:45] from. Nice. So I had the same one from dude rocks about France from fabric at 100. I had from Spubby turn that fabric into a fabric can pretty good and from rookie police woman

[00:14:50] the laughing fool just 25 chapters from retirement. That was that was on my shortlist. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:56] I think we all have so definitely I think dude rocks is taking it makes me wish Francis

[00:15:00] real was just so it was so stupid. I love a good one. So for me, Demon's plan, I also had touching friendship story and then Jack shit. Uh, I also had Japan thinks all Americans are Catholic. And then for Yink and Luna, boring horse shit's never looked so pretty. So it's

[00:16:21] between Demon's plan and Tista. I think the Tista one where which was actually more interesting about like the indie comic. Yeah, label he did, but that one's just so funny to me. That one's just really good. For Cyborg grandpa G, the fan translation was handled by stranger Atari for a good bunch of these chapters. He goes

[00:17:42] into the history of the translation of like untouchable era of sports entertainment in Shonen Jump as the best bit of trivia this year. How else I take pride in all I do as I should. It's nice to have something a bit more complex than I sporty doodies, things.

[00:19:02] Take the spotlight and it doesn't get more complex than how to press and fail over rugby Nice. Best community question. Alright, and then our final thing about the community, we are doing best community questions, so you can submit those in the Shona Flop Discord and we read off our questions in our chibi episodes. Jordan, my first one is from T. Wolfwood. Choose the Shona Flop protagonist for all the D&D classes from our Butzis own chibi.

[00:20:21] Magnus did nothing wrong, asks which Flop manga would have the best tie-in trading per

[00:20:25] game from our Harrisburg episode. Ha ha ha, thank you mortals for voting for me in these floppies. I am now one step closer to world domination So thank you graciously one day. I'll actually read one piece and that way it won't just be something I could say Oh, yeah I remember watching that on for kids and you know actually talk to you guys about it So thanks again. See you next year. The audience is now going Which is like and fall asleep sleep Goodman sleep Goodman. Yes. Yes sleep Goodman. This is easy digital first floppy of the night

[00:21:47] I believe did they I'm gonna forget how many floppies certain ones have won and you're just gonna have to deal with it listener Most ambitious series Next up we have most ambitious This is the series that maybe didn't meet all its ambition But certainly actually tried and did not phone it in with its idea

[00:23:00] So Jordan who did you nominate?

[00:23:02] I'm not made a shonen shoujo because say what night Crazy I thought we had a shoe and for this but George point out that we have two strong addenders for this award

[00:24:22] Which is craziest ending where I had fabricate so many things in there Yeah, it's true like another one I had considered was stars because so much of it was a waste of time to figure out what not to include Yeah, but it was nano hazard That's fair. I actually did nominate now has just but you know better than me which one sucked

[00:25:41] I also nominate click ginkgo Luna because again, it completely wasted your time with a lot of the things you had to write it out

[00:25:45] Yeah, but I'm fine giving is it was so much of a slog and took up so much of my fucking time to get through like Demons plan there was no ending so it was like why did you do this and champagne just again? Yeah, it was a point of champagne that would be like that complete fucking waste of time But they didn't spend as much time as stars did to me fair. All right. We'll give it to stars

[00:27:04] This is stars

[00:28:05] fucking matter because you won't call it aliens area you will call it aliens arena it's like ballon wonder world instead of belance wonderland it's like why why why

[00:28:11] did you not name it fat yeah no it's just like i don't even know how it does this

[00:28:16] but it's like doesn't matter if you know what the night. Um, actually, most fan fiction potential. Next up, we have a award that I think is a lot of fun to talk about, just like the series where we have most fanfic potential, aka the longest or most in-depth where it could have gone section.

[00:29:43] So Jordan, I nominated cyborg grandpa g tricks dedicated witches into makku cinema. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, as we know, is where Denji attacks the falling devil for stealing an apple. And the last one is 140 scales, where we see the inside of the chainsaw man church, and we see like, we get like a bunch of great things.

[00:32:21] Like, we find out that the chainsaw man church thinks that like,

[00:32:25] there's like a bunch of lasers making adults stupid.

[00:33:23] important chapter. I'm willing to give it to that because that was also on my short list. I almost picked that one. Alright, so let's do it. And see it now

[00:33:26] if we prove we don't have a recency bias. Whoo! Yeah! This is Jameson Man's first

[00:33:32] floppy of the night and it's the only thing it will have before us. It is not a

[00:33:36] flop even remotely. Best series. Speaking of great series, we now have

[00:33:43] best series. Jordan, what were your series. I nominated Metallica Matulica. Do you retry in Demon's plan? I nominated Metallica, Metallica, Ginka and Luna and Shonen Chojo. But I think this is Metallica, Metallica. Metallica was both poorly written and poorly drawn. And a complete ripoff.

[00:35:00] Oh, yeah.

[00:35:01] God, remember I just quoted the plot to Hunter Hunter as my guesses and that was completely right.

[00:35:05] Yeah.

[00:35:05] Oh my God.

[00:35:06] It was, uh, that was bad. whole way. It is fucking crazy. Like to me, Best Wear series is series that's just absolutely nuts. Like the room where it's just like you can't predict what it's going to do. What about is that also each of the go keys under control where they have to go find magical testicles and if there's two Dragon Ball Z parody and has a bunch of times has a diegetic timeskip,

[00:36:22] but it's also really hard to have best worst when it's a comedy. Oh, that's true. Because a bad What were your nominees for this year? So I had Sean and Shoujo with Crimson Rogue to Kekekiri you say with Bumbles McFumbles and Nano Hazard was Shen. Nice. I nominated Amalgae and Distortion with Dingo from Crater of Scoob and Shag, butts who's known featuring Andy's Islands and Shounen Shoujo featuring Crimson Rogue. I think we gotta give it to Shounen Shoujo then.

[00:37:40] Yeah, I think Crimson Rogue was a great guest.

[00:37:42] I do wanna say though that Dingo awesome person, we play one piece with them is great meeting

[00:37:46] them. Absolutely dude. Love to have you on. That was great. This was Crimson Rose first floppy of the night and last floppy because it was the final award. Well, it's okay. This is the work of Shonen Shoujo. And it goes to Shonen Shoujo, I guess, technically. If which was his third one of the night?

[00:39:00] This is Shonen Shoujo's third win of the fucking night.

[00:39:03] Whatever.

[00:39:04] Fuck Shonen Shoujo.

[00:39:05] Here's my Shonen Shoujo.

[00:40:01] biggest waste of time was stars. Hardest total to say was aliens arena AKA aliens area.

[00:40:06] Yes, aliens arena 64.

[00:40:07] You got to do this.

[00:40:08] Most forgettable series was Tista.

[00:40:10] Most fanfic potential was Trek's dedicated witches.

[00:40:12] Best Jean-Sommeant chapter was chapter 117 Penguin and weapon.

[00:40:15] Best series was Trek's dedicated witches.

[00:40:17] Worst series was Metallica Metallica.

[00:40:19] Best worst series was Shonen Shoujo.

[00:40:21] In our episode of the year was also shown in Shoujo featuring Crimson Rogue.

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