#99.5 First Thoughts on Killing Me!
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#99.5 First Thoughts on Killing Me!

I must confess…it’s Killing Me!

 

David and Jordan give their first thoughts on Comic Cune manga Killing Me!. Listen in as they give an overview of the first chapter, where they think it will go from there, and ultimately their “power word” to describe the series so far. They also dive into some listener questions.

 

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MAL Description:

In a world where vampires exist, Saki Fujimiya is a vampire hunter. While she attends school like a normal teenager, she targets a specific vampire in her free time. However, when Saki confronts the vampire, none of her attacks are effective, giving her enemy an opportunity to drink her blood. The vampire—using the name Miyoko Kujou—claims that she has no intent to kill Saki before declaring that she actually loves her. The encounter ends there, but Saki continues to face Miyoko at school.

 

Miyoko has made a habit of drinking Saki's blood, and while she may say otherwise, Saki quickly succumbs to pleasure. Despite the gratification she receives from this interaction, Saki always tries to kill Miyoko immediately afterward. Is this a sense of loyalty to her position as a vampire hunter, or is it something else entirely?

 

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[00:00:10] And welcome to Shonen Flop Chibi!

[00:00:12] First impressions mini episode where we talk about the first chapter of the series, we'll

[00:00:15] be covering in depth next week with our guest.

[00:00:18] Oh my god David it's Voidberger!

[00:00:20] I'm Jordan with me today as usual is my lovely co-host David.

[00:00:24] Say hi David.

[00:00:25] Hi David.

[00:00:26] Oh my god.

[00:00:27] This is actually our second take at this intro and I still can't think of a way to

[00:00:30] properly just-

[00:00:32] Why did you do that?

[00:00:33] Why did you- it's really stupid.

[00:00:35] Why- why did you do that?

[00:00:37] What series are we covering this week?

[00:00:38] Jordan I just have to say the lack of my ability to actually vary how I say hi David

[00:00:43] is really absolutely killing me.

[00:00:46] I hate you.

[00:00:47] I'm so fucking angry.

[00:00:49] Yeah it's called killing me and the reason David said that is because he keeps trying

[00:00:54] to do the part of Hittie baby one more time where she says my loneliness is killing me.

[00:01:00] Yeah that's- and he can't do it.

[00:01:02] Listener you may remember when we talked about the series recovering in the future we said

[00:01:07] from dust till dawn however we read that and the first chapter talks about snuff

[00:01:13] films and some really dark things, bad jokes that are pretty dark and it's just not

[00:01:21] fun to talk about that stuff on our goofy manga podcast so we decided to veto that one

[00:01:28] and we're doing another one about-

[00:01:30] Vampire lesbian.

[00:01:31] Lesbian vampire girls.

[00:01:33] I was gonna say vampire lesbians but we've only encountered one lesbian who's a vampire

[00:01:37] in this series so far.

[00:01:39] So far yes.

[00:01:40] And Jordan do you mind telling the audience a little bit about this manga?

[00:01:43] Yes this is killing me it's by Akiyama Enma.

[00:01:46] It ran from September 27, 2017 to May 26, 2018 for 11 chapters in one volume only one David.

[00:01:55] This is quite a U-19.

[00:01:57] Yeah Max would be actually told us it's 10 chapters in one volume and then there's

[00:02:01] one six page final chapter so it's very awkward where I guess if you buy the one

[00:02:06] volume it's not actually finished.

[00:02:08] Oh god but yeah let's get into the plot summary for this first chapter of killing me.

[00:02:14] Miyako loves her school classmate Saki but David she just tries to push her away.

[00:02:19] Oh.

[00:02:20] I don't know maybe it's because Saki's a vampire hunter and oh David Miyako is a vampire.

[00:02:26] What?

[00:02:27] Wow where have I seen this plot before?

[00:02:30] Oh my goodness.

[00:02:31] Where have you seen this plot?

[00:02:32] It's in Buffy all the time actually.

[00:02:35] There you go.

[00:02:36] There's like multiple instances in Buffy.

[00:02:38] But yeah Miyako just wants you know a little bit of her blood from time to

[00:02:41] time.

[00:02:42] A little bit of blood, a little teeny bit of blood.

[00:02:44] When the school day is done Saki and Miyako fight with Saki using her revolver and Miyako

[00:02:50] easily dodging the bullets before biting her neck and feeding on her.

[00:02:54] The next day Saki comes into class wearing a chain of garlic and a cross which repulses

[00:02:59] everyone including Miyako so whatever that was the point.

[00:03:03] Later however Saki sits alone on a bench eating lunch with her cross and garlic

[00:03:08] next to her thinking of ways to kill Miyako the fool she took them off to eat popcorn David.

[00:03:16] Justin Miyako appears and grabs her cross saying that she can't push her away with this

[00:03:20] even though it's shaking in her hand which is a great little detail.

[00:03:24] She tells Saki that she truly loves her before collapsing on her lap.

[00:03:28] In Saki Fiora's it's because Miyako held the cross that reminds me of many of my

[00:03:31] friends that legally can't enter churches.

[00:03:34] Oh.

[00:03:35] She takes out the revolver she brought to school of which is most American manga ever.

[00:03:39] God, this reminds me how Chainsaw Man had a character saying don't go to school tomorrow.

[00:03:43] Oh god yeah.

[00:03:45] I love Chainsaw Man.

[00:03:46] It's so good.

[00:03:47] Pointed at Miyako's head not caring if the bullet ends up going through her own leg

[00:03:51] can't bring herself to fire before Miyako wakes up and tosses the gun away.

[00:03:55] Miyako then glumps Saki as she resolves to one day kill the vampire.

[00:04:00] End of chapter 1.

[00:04:01] End chapter 1.

[00:04:03] Beginning of a beautiful romance.

[00:04:05] Oh yes.

[00:04:06] A bat romance.

[00:04:07] A bat mance.

[00:04:08] Have you seen that fan art of Twilight where they replace everyone with Batman?

[00:04:11] No that sounds good though.

[00:04:12] Ah I want your love and I want your revenge.

[00:04:14] Anyway um yeah first impressions David what'd you think?

[00:04:18] I thought this was fun.

[00:04:19] I always feel like Yuri manga or read just always seemed to be a fun time with very

[00:04:23] little drama.

[00:04:24] I don't know if it's because of what I've read or if it's a trope that Yuri

[00:04:27] manga is really just absolute cotton candy when it comes to LGBT stuff.

[00:04:32] Besides yeah my lesbian thing was it my lesbian experience of loneliness which is not really

[00:04:38] Yuri because it's mostly just about one woman's experiences.

[00:04:43] True.

[00:04:44] I feel like Yuri is a very specific genre but yeah Yuri is very sweet as opposed to Yali

[00:04:50] which is apparently very seedy and sometimes violet from Dusk Till Dawn was weird anyway.

[00:04:57] What's your first thought on this?

[00:05:00] This is very cute.

[00:05:02] It did feel a little bit more like a summary than a full chapter really where it was kind

[00:05:06] of just going beat by beat but at the same time it managed to like fit a lot of stuff

[00:05:11] in there.

[00:05:12] It didn't really waste my time and you know they you have to get that stuff out of

[00:05:16] the way to get the thing going you know what I mean?

[00:05:18] I agree.

[00:05:19] Also oh Japan you and your lack of school shooters.

[00:05:26] You could just casually have a character pull out a gun at school and it's like

[00:05:30] it's a cute little moment.

[00:05:33] Oh that's so sweet Japan.

[00:05:35] Lucky you.

[00:05:36] Yeah I also want to say this art is cute.

[00:05:38] I liked the color page.

[00:05:40] It seemed like a really good use of digital coloring where it's like not very flat.

[00:05:44] There's a lot of techniques that weren't just like you could have emulated that with

[00:05:47] actual physical medium if you had wanted to you know.

[00:05:49] Yeah it really adds to the inoffensiveness where I think this is the right art style

[00:05:53] for it where you know that things aren't really gonna get that heavy and if they

[00:05:56] do this was not the right art style for it.

[00:05:59] Or maybe it's the perfect art style.

[00:06:01] Oh my.

[00:06:02] Also see Madoka Magica.

[00:06:04] Yeah but that was a god what a fucking chat.

[00:06:06] I should make Rachel watch the first two episodes and then just live record her watching

[00:06:09] the third episode and then she'll divorce me.

[00:06:11] God that's like when people do like blind let's plays of Doki Doki Literature Club.

[00:06:16] Oh I did that.

[00:06:17] Oh yeah?

[00:06:18] Yeah remember during COVID my friends and I think you were there Jordan.

[00:06:21] Oh I don't remember that at all.

[00:06:23] I remember playing World of Horror.

[00:06:25] We are definitely really getting on topic.

[00:06:26] I do want to say though that one of the negatives is the art is good but it's very large so not

[00:06:32] a lot is actually happening in these pages where I think he probably could have added

[00:06:35] another panel to each page.

[00:06:37] So it's like even though it's a short chapter it really really feels like you're right

[00:06:40] about 10 pages.

[00:06:41] Yeah to be fair like this is much shorter than the first chapters that we usually

[00:06:45] cover this is like.

[00:06:47] I think it's like 25ish pages but it's but it's a very inefficient 25 pages.

[00:06:51] I don't know how inefficient it is like we've read I mean just compared to some

[00:06:55] of the manga that we've read in the past this kind of gets a lot out of the way.

[00:07:00] I agree with what you're saying where like he could probably fit in a couple more

[00:07:04] panels but like I don't know.

[00:07:06] I mean he probably needed to do that just to give some breathing room to stuff.

[00:07:10] Yeah that's fair.

[00:07:11] Yeah that's fair.

[00:07:12] Well I think it's interesting how we know a little bit of the rules here.

[00:07:15] This is for instance it seems like the kind of a vampire where you have to have your

[00:07:22] victim drink the vampire's own blood.

[00:07:26] Because otherwise Saki would have been turned into a vampire already.

[00:07:30] Every vampire series has their own special rules.

[00:07:33] Is it you drink the vampire's blood or does the vampire drink your blood in a specific

[00:07:37] way?

[00:07:38] Sometimes they sparkle in the sunlight.

[00:07:40] Oh yeah I mean she clearly doesn't have much of an issue with sunlight.

[00:07:43] That's very true.

[00:07:44] Wait a minute you're totally right she doesn't give a fuck about the sun.

[00:07:49] They don't say anything about that.

[00:07:51] Fuck I didn't even pick up on that.

[00:07:53] That's totally a good point.

[00:07:55] Yeah it's okay it's very inconvenient the sunlight thing to have a story like this.

[00:07:59] Yeah I imagine actually that sounds like a great series where it's like a nerd who only

[00:08:03] goes out at night because he's just playing video games all day and his vampire girlfriend

[00:08:07] actually I think that is a manga.

[00:08:09] I've never read it but I think that is actually there's like a famous manga about vampires

[00:08:12] that that's the plot.

[00:08:14] That sounds like a manga.

[00:08:15] Is it what called to the night or something I think?

[00:08:17] I mean I've never heard of it so I can't really confirm or deny.

[00:08:21] I'm sure someone on YouTube will post what manga I'm thinking of it's got the girl with

[00:08:24] the braids I think the really skinny girl.

[00:08:26] Anyway okay this is also pretty funny I think her walking in with the cross and garlic was

[00:08:30] really funny the next day.

[00:08:32] Yeah just like I don't care if I look fucking weird and smell terrible.

[00:08:36] Hey I feel you're dealing with vampires I guess.

[00:08:39] Yeah but yeah I mean that's really it's not a lot to really talk about Jordan did

[00:08:43] you have any of your thoughts?

[00:08:44] Nah not really.

[00:08:47] Yeah that's fair I don't think we're gonna have a 40 minute one like you and Dylan

[00:08:50] have a fucking service for it.

[00:08:52] So Jordan would you I guess the question isn't so much would you read our 10 chapters but

[00:08:55] would you finish this?

[00:08:56] Yeah sure.

[00:08:57] Yeah I know this is probably gonna take 30 minutes to read.

[00:09:00] It went at a pretty quick pace you know.

[00:09:03] Really sinks its teeth into ya.

[00:09:04] I don't know about that but uh I know I know but it goes by pretty quickly.

[00:09:11] Yeah I agree.

[00:09:12] But David what do you think's gonna happen next?

[00:09:14] Oh thanks so much for asking me babe.

[00:09:16] I think Saki is gonna have a super badass vampire hunter dad like literally like some

[00:09:20] like Helsing like figure.

[00:09:22] I think someone's parents are not going to approve of the relationship and it's going

[00:09:25] to be not because they're in lesbians but because one is a vampire and that will be

[00:09:30] the joke.

[00:09:31] David I've been reading Dracula did you know that Van Helsing is just like some old Dutch

[00:09:36] doctor?

[00:09:37] Yeah like he's not this super badass dude I talked about it with Dylan I think on

[00:09:40] an episode it's like yeah like vampire media has led me to believe he was this

[00:09:45] like badass with all these like crazy contraptions and stuff.

[00:09:49] Now he's just an old Dutch guy.

[00:09:51] He's just a guy.

[00:09:52] He's just a guy.

[00:09:53] I mean Dutch people are just all Dutch people have magical powers.

[00:09:56] Have you ever been to Amsterdam man?

[00:09:57] I have it's true.

[00:09:58] And then finally Jordan I think they're gonna completely abandon the premise that

[00:10:01] Saki is trying to kill Miyoko.

[00:10:03] I think it's just too inconvenient for the plot and it's just like you can only

[00:10:06] make that joke so many times before it just gets weird.

[00:10:07] I mean this series does only go 10 chapters though.

[00:10:10] Yeah I'm not trying to play the game about the fact that's 10 chapters you know.

[00:10:14] Yeah how about you?

[00:10:15] So Saki does not become a vampire.

[00:10:18] How did I know someone would have a guess about that?

[00:10:20] What?

[00:10:21] I said I knew one of us was gonna make a guess about if she becomes a vampire or not.

[00:10:25] I mean it makes sense to think about that you know because it's kind of part of the

[00:10:29] fucking plot.

[00:10:32] There is another vampire and it leads to a love triangle and at one point Saki

[00:10:36] thinks that she kills Miyoko and feels bad about it but she doesn't actually kill

[00:10:40] me.

[00:10:42] Those are some good guesses my man.

[00:10:43] And what's your power word?

[00:10:44] Glomp.

[00:10:45] Mine's chomp.

[00:10:46] Hey...

[00:10:47] Ryman.

[00:10:48] Hey chomp chomp I haven't heard the word glomp in a long time.

[00:10:50] This manga has glomp energy you know what I mean?

[00:10:53] Oh yeah this is some DeviantArt.

[00:10:55] There's something about this that really just reminded me of like 2000s like DeviantArt

[00:11:01] MySpace-ish stuff.

[00:11:03] Yeah this is gonna air on Adult Swim after the melancholy of what's her name?

[00:11:07] Haruhi Suzumiya?

[00:11:08] Yeah.

[00:11:09] I've never seen it.

[00:11:10] Her voice actress got cancelled just cause she publicly talked about how she was sexually

[00:11:14] active despite her voice actress being like 23 years old.

[00:11:17] The Japanese one or the American one?

[00:11:19] Yeah the Japanese one she got like cancelled because she was like oh yeah yeah I have sex

[00:11:23] often as a consenting adult and that was apparently a really big deal.

[00:11:26] I mean that sounds par for the course for Japan.

[00:11:29] Yeah it really does but it's such a shame.

[00:11:31] Yeah I mean an idol can have her entire career be destroyed if she has a boyfriend

[00:11:35] or is hot smoking a cigarette.

[00:11:37] Like true.

[00:11:38] So that doesn't shock me.

[00:11:39] Still sucks.

[00:11:40] I've never seen that anime.

[00:11:42] Pretty good.

[00:11:43] Oh you should it's very good.

[00:11:44] Yeah.

[00:11:45] It's a good time capsule of 2000s anime.

[00:11:46] Or Oron Host Club that's the energy I get from this manga.

[00:11:49] Oh yeah which we did watch on for an episode of Anime Out Of Context.

[00:11:53] Yeah we did check it out.

[00:11:54] But Jordan enough about talking about other podcasts let's talk about other people

[00:11:57] where we get into the Q&A.

[00:11:59] That was good that was a good transition.

[00:12:02] Good nice work David.

[00:12:03] Pretty good.

[00:12:04] As a reminder you can submit your questions on the show to follow up Discord.

[00:12:07] You can find a link to it in our episode description and on our website showdenflop.com.

[00:12:11] Get priority to patrons, people who haven't asked a question before or haven't had a question

[00:12:14] answered in a long time.

[00:12:16] Starting with Sandman we have which time period is underutilized in manga that you

[00:12:19] can make for a great manga?

[00:12:21] I think the 1920s in America be really cool you know like.

[00:12:27] Oh yeah Glittle Gangster.

[00:12:29] Yeah like Film Noir stuff.

[00:12:30] You got like fucking Al Capone and shit.

[00:12:33] I like it.

[00:12:34] It would be very interesting to do a manga about the interactions between the settlers

[00:12:40] or not the settlers, the colonizers of New Zealand and the Maui people.

[00:12:43] It's got a very unique interaction between colonizer and colonizer because the Maui people

[00:12:48] have actually only been living in that island for about 700 years and it really changes

[00:12:52] a lot of the landscape of how colonizers interacted like for instance all the Maui people.

[00:12:56] David we get it you went to New Zealand.

[00:12:59] Yes but it's very interesting that all the tribes in the indigenous country actually

[00:13:03] speak almost exactly the same language which made it way easier to kind of develop politically

[00:13:08] with the native people of the country.

[00:13:10] Oh that's interesting.

[00:13:11] Yeah because they'd only been there 700 years.

[00:13:13] Oh yeah so it's just a very interesting time period that I think could be explored.

[00:13:17] Maybe not in a shonen manga though.

[00:13:18] Uh no no well the Maui people have superpowers so have you seen their rugby team?

[00:13:22] Well I have seen Lord of the Rings so.

[00:13:25] So for context the women's New Zealand rugby team is the most successful rugby

[00:13:29] team on the planet.

[00:13:31] They won the world cup four times in a row and have like an 82% win rate.

[00:13:34] That's crazy.

[00:13:35] Uh next up from Spook do you have a dream that you remember to this day?

[00:13:40] In middle school I believe I really wanted a PS3.

[00:13:44] I thought it was so cool hadn't come out yet.

[00:13:47] I had a dream where I got a PS3 and I was so happy and then I woke up and I didn't

[00:13:53] have a PS3.

[00:13:54] That's my dream.

[00:13:55] Well you have one now right?

[00:13:56] Yes I have a PS5 now.

[00:13:58] Dream made.

[00:13:59] Oh shit why don't you get that?

[00:14:00] Uh Christmas.

[00:14:01] Christmas?

[00:14:02] Oh that's awesome man.

[00:14:05] Yeeea.

[00:14:06] How about you?

[00:14:07] I had a dream where I dreamt that Rachel left me in the middle of the night and then I

[00:14:10] woke up and she wasn't there in the bed and I was absolutely terrified so I checked my

[00:14:14] phone to see if she had actually left and sent me a text message and then I found her

[00:14:18] on the couch because she had woke up and she wanted to watch tiktok without waking

[00:14:21] me up.

[00:14:22] But I was legitimately scared out of my mind that I had this dream she left me

[00:14:26] and she actually wasn't there when I woke up.

[00:14:28] Oh god.

[00:14:29] I was like 6am.

[00:14:31] I also remember I had a dream where I got really drunk and I couldn't remember what

[00:14:34] happened so I was like trying to piece together what had happened in the dream while I was

[00:14:38] still dreaming.

[00:14:39] So you were dreaming and couldn't remember what happened in the dream?

[00:14:43] Yes so I was dreaming I got really drunk in the dream and then I still dreamt to

[00:14:48] the next day when I was hungover trying to remember what happened the night before

[00:14:51] so I had like an inception dream.

[00:14:53] Oh man.

[00:14:54] When I was a kid I always had trouble getting up on time for school so one day I got

[00:14:58] up early.

[00:14:59] I got everything together, took a shower, I made it to the bus, I was like on time and

[00:15:05] I was fully awake and I was so happy and then I woke up to my mom yelling at me to get

[00:15:09] up.

[00:15:10] I was so mad.

[00:15:11] I was like no I did it!

[00:15:13] No!

[00:15:14] I made it!

[00:15:15] No!

[00:15:16] Alright and then onto the next question from Meru there's a lot of questions like

[00:15:21] would ex win against Goku but we often forget the other side of the spectrum

[00:15:24] with the weeks.

[00:15:25] No relation to our guest from our Metama security episode.

[00:15:28] The weakest Shonen protagonist of all let's say Senku but I bet we can find someone weaker

[00:15:31] and who could lose against him in a fist fight?

[00:15:35] So I would say that there is definitely one Shonen protagonist that Senku could very

[00:15:40] easily beat up.

[00:15:41] Do you know who that might be Jordan?

[00:15:43] Is it a guy that we covered on this podcast?

[00:15:45] Yes.

[00:15:46] It'd be really cool if you could remember who it was but I wouldn't be shocked if

[00:15:50] you don't remember.

[00:15:51] Can you give me a hint?

[00:15:52] BT.

[00:15:53] Damn it.

[00:15:54] That's fair.

[00:15:55] I think Senku could probably beat up an average 6 year old.

[00:15:59] You know you're probably right.

[00:16:01] Oh god I'm just trying to think like yeah I don't know if I can think of anybody else

[00:16:08] Magu?

[00:16:09] No Magu could fight.

[00:16:10] But Baku the god of destruction who could just blow a laser yes he could very easily

[00:16:14] He was weakened.

[00:16:15] I mean a teenage girl had total like control over him at all time.

[00:16:21] Like I'm not talking about fully powered Magu here.

[00:16:25] Gomez?

[00:16:26] Is Gomez Shonen protagonist?

[00:16:29] Yeah I guess.

[00:16:31] Well the main character according to Shueisha of High School Family is the dad who definitely

[00:16:35] could beat up Senku.

[00:16:36] Yes.

[00:16:37] A very fit 40 year old could definitely take on a twink's 14 year old.

[00:16:40] I think that if he wasn't allowed to use his psychic powers Senku could fight

[00:16:44] Mob.

[00:16:45] Mob is not in Shonen Jump though.

[00:16:47] No Shonen protagonist doesn't include yeah.

[00:16:49] Yeah.

[00:16:50] I think yeah that would be a good… well yeah that would be a Bob could beat

[00:16:53] his ass because Mob actually trains.

[00:16:54] No I don't think…

[00:16:55] You know Mob works out.

[00:16:56] Mob isn't part of the body improvement club.

[00:16:58] Well yeah by the end Mob could take Senku but like for the vast majority of the series

[00:17:04] no I think Senku could beat up Mob.

[00:17:06] I disagree and you know what we'll let the fans decide.

[00:17:09] Alright.

[00:17:10] Onto the next question.

[00:17:11] From Redblade were you ever a victim or witness to someone who is really rude

[00:17:14] to a customer service worker?

[00:17:16] So one time I was working at a retail store and a guy came up to me and he was like

[00:17:23] hey I don't like using computers can you just go online and activate my credit card for

[00:17:29] me?

[00:17:30] And what happened?

[00:17:31] I was like no.

[00:17:32] What?

[00:17:33] I can't.

[00:17:34] What?

[00:17:35] And he was just like ugh and he just walked away.

[00:17:36] I was just like what?

[00:17:37] That is very strange.

[00:17:38] I remember I was on my cruise and we were in a customer support line because

[00:17:40] I got double charged and the woman in front of me was like complaining about

[00:17:44] I guess she like fell and she was threatening to sue the cruise and the man's like okay

[00:17:47] well we can no longer talk.

[00:17:49] And she's like okay I'm sorry I won't sue you I take that back.

[00:17:51] And then she like rants about how no one gave her like a follow up call to check in on her

[00:17:55] after she hurt herself.

[00:17:56] She's like it would have been appreciated if someone had called and asked how I was

[00:17:59] doing but no one reached out.

[00:18:02] That's like one of the most caringy Karens.

[00:18:04] Right?

[00:18:05] Jesus Christ that dude was so excited when she said the word lawsuit because

[00:18:08] then he could just instantly stop talking to her.

[00:18:11] I totally get that.

[00:18:12] I mean I think on the last chibi I told the story of the woman who would bring her

[00:18:16] Chihuahua into my pet store to pee everywhere and then kick the pee underneath

[00:18:20] the shelves but anyway.

[00:18:23] For our final question we have from Ozzy Rat would you stay slash visit a

[00:18:27] clown motel that's haunted by clowns and non-clowns?

[00:18:29] I think you asked this last week Ozzy Rat well maybe actually I think Ozzy

[00:18:34] Rat wants to hear what you say.

[00:18:36] Okay well in my opinion I want to know what's the catch.

[00:18:39] The catch is that it's haunted by clowns and non-clowns.

[00:18:43] So what's the catch?

[00:18:44] Nice nice nice alright.

[00:18:47] Alright well okay since that was kind of a half question we'll toss one more in.

[00:18:53] From ZZ Digital they ask you have to teach a lit class using a series you've

[00:18:56] covered what's your pick?

[00:18:58] I actually have one that speaks to me.

[00:19:00] What?

[00:19:01] I think that shit now I can think of Mobshike 100 what is fabricant 100 I think would

[00:19:05] be interesting there are definitely some very traditional and you could definitely do a

[00:19:09] lot of cross analysis with Frankenstein to throw in some more traditional literature

[00:19:12] into studying that book.

[00:19:14] I'm thinking either Time Paradox Ghostwriter or Hunter's Guild Red Hood.

[00:19:19] Yes I was thinking Time Paradox as well but Hunter's Guild Red Hood I think is also

[00:19:23] a really great choice.

[00:19:24] Yeah because I think Time Paradox Ghostwriter has you know some more literary value than

[00:19:30] a lot of the other things that we've covered arguably all the things that we've covered

[00:19:34] whereas you know Hunter's Guild Red Hood has a lot of references to other older literature

[00:19:43] and has very thick women.

[00:19:45] Nice.

[00:19:46] Yeah.

[00:19:47] It's a little blue period where it's trans rights and thick women all the way down.

[00:19:50] Oh yeah and where could you ask for?

[00:19:52] Exactly and all I could ask for is saying Jordan thank you so much for all of your

[00:19:55] hard work on the show.

[00:19:56] Thank you David for all of your hard work on the show putting it together editing

[00:20:00] you know doing all that shit.

[00:20:01] I do what I can.

[00:20:02] Props to Shannon for the awesome cover art find her online on Illumina T. Thank you Dylan

[00:20:05] for assistance with editing find his podcast Anime Out of Context at animeoutofcontext.com

[00:20:10] and a big thank you again for taking over while I was gone in a little country known as New

[00:20:14] Zealand.

[00:20:15] Yeah.

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[00:20:58] We are finally finishing up the Ichinose families deadly sins I said it right David oh my god.

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[00:21:14] Yes friend of the show yeah and on top of that I want to thank some of our wonderful

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[00:22:13] P Hall Marabara Matt Matzolovic my carpenter is your reference Jordan

[00:22:18] that's gotta haven't thought about that in years oh man that reminds me so

[00:22:21] much of superstar the Karen Carpenter's story you know one of my favorite movies

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[00:22:43] of our B children as well Jordan anything you want to toss in you know

[00:22:46] they burned all the copies of superstar the Karen Carpenter story because

[00:22:51] they got in a lawsuit with Richard Carpenter because they implied in the

[00:22:55] movie that he was secretly gay you know who else was the carpenter

[00:22:59] uh Jesus happy Easter buddy happy Easter turns out the whole thing about

[00:23:05] Greek Easter being after Passover is incorrect it's based on different

[00:23:10] lunar charts interesting but yeah thank you to my wonderful girlfriend

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[00:23:22] they're not accepting her card for some reason yeah check out mission ignition

[00:23:27] I'm not gonna spoil anything it is possible that we may soon have an

[00:23:32] answer to whether or not that actually is Gary Oldman whoa well thank you

[00:23:37] so much for listening tune in next Monday for our full episode and killing me

[00:23:40] featuring void burger and I can't believe it's episode one fucking hundred

[00:23:43] goddamn this is what Jordan this been David

[00:23:46] keep on flop floppers bye bye